Mark M Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 From the order of mounting this would appear to be Turkish with a rather unusal combination of awards. The backing looks like herringbone wool? Does anyone know if Turkish bars were mounted in "Frack Bar" style?[attachmentid=48436][attachmentid=48438] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 Rather impressive bar Mark. Yes, I think a search through period photos will find WW1 era Turks wearing Frack Bars..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 I'd say this was probably a German civilian/diplomatic bar.Can you zoom in on the round silver medal with the blue and white ribbon... a Certain Person is going to FLIP out seeing that ribbon in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark M Posted August 1, 2006 Author Share Posted August 1, 2006 RickOK, not sure who we are talking about but the orders are as follows, right to left per Frack Bar:Turkey, Order of OsmaniaMontenegro, Order of Danilo (French manufatue)Romania, Order of the CrownMontenegro, Nicholas Commemorative medal, 1910Portugal, Coronation Medal 1889Turkey, Red Crescent DecorationTurkey, Liakat Medal in silver And of course these are all traceable? [attachmentid=48448] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stogieman Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 Whilst my (Truly) Evil Twin? is correct, the possibility is it might just be a German Bar..... I would tend to be very surprised at that with absolutely NO German awards of any type.... I would tend to think that a diplomatic officer (Because that is what they were....) who would have received this rather impressive spread of awards would have at least ONE German award in his group??? Not impossible, but in my eyes, that's stretching the envelope some..... my "gut call". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josef Rietveld Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 (edited) I think I know this bar. It was on ebay one or two years ago by a belgian seller and wasn't sold because the start price was to high.later on it was sold to emedals as far as i remember and the price rose again.Very impressive bar. The mounting is german but there are three turkish decorations on it.Just a guess or speculation: Maybe a turkish diplomat or higher beaurocrat stationed in germany? or on a official mission in germany and therefore he ordered to made a bar in german mounting. on the other hand turkish officials normaly wore there embroidered swallowtails. Maybe it was done for half-official ocassions where to wear normal swallow-tail.haynau Edited August 1, 2006 by haynau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Danner Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 My only input is also gut instinct: while an Ottoman diplomat might place foreign orders ahead of Ottoman service or commemorative medals, I can't imagine an Ottoman order of precedence that would place foreign coronation and commemorative medals ahead of Ottoman decorations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avsaribar Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 I am a specialist of Turkish - Ottoman Orderds and medals , and I can say that this bar is not like Turkish style , I feel like , it can be awarded to high degree officer or diplomat in Germany , Also it is interesting because ; You can see the Order of Osmanie 3th or 4th class and Liyakat medal , but what is Hilal-i Ahmer (Red Cresent medal) doing near them... Definitely impressive bar... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 (edited) Perhaps it is the second row of a two part group. Edited October 17, 2006 by Ulsterman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Perhaps it is the second row of a two part group.I was thinking just that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landsknechte Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 I'd say this was probably a German civilian/diplomatic bar.Can you zoom in on the round silver medal with the blue and white ribbon... a Certain Person is going to FLIP out seeing that ribbon in there. Whomever do you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 EVERYTHING on that ribbon is bizarre! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landsknechte Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 Does the reverse match the reverse of this medal? (Found uploaded to a OMSA database listed as a Carlos I "Royal Household Medal".) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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