Soviet order of glory 3rd class - but what to do now?

[Christian L]

i was able to get this nice conditioned decoration with the mail today. now i'm interested, how i can order the awardees data from the russian archive.

(or isn't it "worth" to research?)

and is it possible to say anything by the number at the moment?

thanks a lot for any kind of help christian

[Guest Darrell]

This serial number indicates it was awarded sometime between February and May 1945.

Edited August 1, 2006 by Darrell

[Gerd Becker]

sent you a pm...

[Guest Rick Research]

Actually, from that high a number, I would take this to be a late award made around 1956.

[Guest Darrell]

Actually, from that high a number, I would take this to be a late award made around 1956.

Just going by a couple of award dates before and after this serial number from the Green Bible

[Stogieman]

I think any Glory is worth researching...

[Guest Rick Research]

Awwww, I don't HAVE the Green Bible. I'm going by the database numbers/dates maintained here on the website.

[NavyFCO]

I just got notified that all the research is "in" on my remaning Glory 3rds... I always think they're worth researching, even if one (like me) just plans on selling them. Go for it!

Dave

[NavyFCO]

One more note... I've seen the 600,000 range Glory 3rds issued between late 1944 and the early 1950s. Really a mixed bag of when they were issued!

Dave

[NavyFCO]

In fact, speak of the devil... Here's an award card I just got yesterday for another 600,000 series Glory 3rd...

Dave

[matteti]

In fact, speak of the devil... Here's an award card I just got yesterday for another 600,000 series Glory 3rd...

Dave

Hello NavyFCO,

How do you get the original award card? I just get bad quality photocopies.

[NavyFCO]

As some folks say:

"I'ze gots skillzzzzz, baby"

Hello NavyFCO,

How do you get the original award card? I just get bad quality photocopies.

[matteti]

As some folks say:

"I'ze gots skillzzzzz, baby"

I can see this!

[Christian L]

thanks a lot to all of you for your help!

will do my best, and when i get the info on the order, i'll post it on the forum!

thanks again from a novice in this field christian

[Christian L]

and here we go now

(hope you like it)

[Christian L]

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[Gerd Becker]

Excellent, Christian.

Thats a nice a quite typical citation for an Order of Glory.

The 161st Rifle Divisions final title to the end of the war was "161st Rifle Stanislav Order of the Red Banner, Order of Bogdan Khmelnitsky Division"

They later took part in the Lvov-Sandomir operation in July 1944 with the 1st Guards Army.

And, you are hooked now? Any more numbered soviet awards, you are going to research?

best,

Gerd

[NavyFCO]

I've seen a LOT of researched Glory citations, and that's one of the best I've seen. I love how he wounded the German officer, and then DRAGGED him back to the Soviet positions for interrogation. Can you imagine DRAGGING a wounded enemy soldier anywhere, let alone back to your lines? WOW!

Very cool!

Dave

[Ed_Haynes]

Yes . . . really nice one . . . the JOYS of RESEARCH?!

[Guest Rick Research]

Notice that he was a SERGEANT (3 stripes) in the citation, but a "private" on the 1955 Award Record Card. And that his 3 million plus Valor Medal is given an authorization date of "1944" when that is a 1953+ number...

the high numbers on both these awards suggest that they were "catch ups" IN 1955.

And what could have caused that 10 year delay?

Why, maybe whatever turned a Sergeant into a Private. And an "Independent Scouting Company" at ARMY level, where the very young Sergeant was a private? Does that not suggest a PUNISHMENT UNIT, perhaps?

[NavyFCO]

Why, maybe whatever turned a Sergeant into a Private. And an "Independent Scouting Company" at ARMY level, where the very young Sergeant was a private? Does that not suggest a PUNISHMENT UNIT, perhaps?

I don't think it was anything that drastic... I think they probably did temporary promotions during the War, and likewise "downsized" after the War. I am currently selling a Red Star whose recipient was a Lieutenant during the War, and on his catch-up AC, he's listed as a Private. Now if you want to wonder about a demotion, there's one for some odd theories......

Dave

[NavyFCO]

In fact, here's a scan of the top of his citation and AC. Poor fellow - officer to private in 22 years!

Dave

[Christian L]

Thanks very much to all for the comments and the suggestions!

I really enjoyed it, as it was possible to give the glory an individual history - and a very interesting one, at least for me.

And yes, i guess it wasn't the last time i've done it

Christian