Spanienkreuz mit brillianten

[Sal Williams]

Here is one that was offered by Hermann Historica.

I believe it to be a fake. I dont like the pebbling , nor the "Godet" engraving among other things.

What are your thoughts.

[Sal Williams]

reverse

[Jacques]

It is difficult to say, so few are available and very few collectors get one in hand. Nevertheless, the engraving do not match to what I know, or saw .

Concerning the cross itself, I can't honestly say. the pebbling looks correct.

May be some of you have better comparatives pics

jacques

[Sal Williams]

Jacques, the one I saw at Wolf and hardin seemed absolutly real. This one is not as nice. The pebbling looks different and the engraving is not right IMO. I would think they would all be of the same consistant quality because Godet made all of them I believe and there were so few. Wouldnt they all be the same except for the hand finishing? I would expect no room for variants.

[Paul R]

Hi Sal!

What would an original sell for on today's market?

[Jacques]

Hi Sal!

What would an original sell for on today's market?

Around 75000?

[Stan]

I was offered a cased example a while back that cost ?35,000 so there appears to be a wide variation in prices. Here are the pics

[Stan]

Reverse shot

[Paul R]

Wow... either one is a real chunck of change!

[Jacques]

Stan, do you have better close up ? with the full MM ?

jacques

[Stan]

This is the best I have got.

Stan

[Jacques]

Hi,

Don't forget that these crosses are larger than the normal one : 58mm instead of 56mm

here is a blury pic of an old german magazine

[Jacques]

reverse

[CHE]

I was offered a CASED example ...

Hello

Stan, is it possible to see the case of cross, please

[Douglas 5]

Hi Stan :

Is there a 53 on yours too , just hidden by the pin maybe ?

Douglas

[Jim Baker]

Interesting that in the magazine photo, the bottom arm of the Swaz looks trimmed off.

[Douglas 5]

Think that is just the shadow casted from the light comming from the top right corner .

[Stan]

Hi Stan :

Is there a 53 on yours too , just hidden by the pin maybe ?

Douglas

Douglas,

Here is a shot which includes the "53"

[Douglas 5]

Thanks Stan, that is the closes I will ever get to one.

[Jacques]

Hi Stan,

Except the pin which seems to be shorter, your cross looks like the one presented in the german magazine. But the price it has been proposed to you doesn't match to the current prices.

Do you know its characteristics ?

thanks

jacques

[CHE]

Stan does not make comments ? I have better photos of this cross.

It is a FAKE.

It was offered to sale 2-3 years ago in a original red box of the Gold Spanish cross.

The price of the offer: 25000?

P.S. Gentleman's, excuse me for my English

[Stan]

Jacques,

What do you mean by "characteristics"?

Stan

[Stan]

CHE,

I never saw the Cross in person- I was just sent photos of it which I have now shared on the forum.

Stan

[Jacques]

Jacques,

What do you mean by "characteristics"?

Stan

I mean size, weight, metal used.

jacques

[Stan]

Sorry Jacques, but this info was not sent to me, only photos. I did not purchase the piece.

Stan