Sal Williams Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 Here is one that was offered by Hermann Historica.I believe it to be a fake. I dont like the pebbling , nor the "Godet" engraving among other things. What are your thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Williams Posted August 2, 2006 Author Share Posted August 2, 2006 reverse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 It is difficult to say, so few are available and very few collectors get one in hand. Nevertheless, the engraving do not match to what I know, or saw . Concerning the cross itself, I can't honestly say. the pebbling looks correct.May be some of you have better comparatives picsjacques Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Williams Posted August 3, 2006 Author Share Posted August 3, 2006 Jacques, the one I saw at Wolf and hardin seemed absolutly real. This one is not as nice. The pebbling looks different and the engraving is not right IMO. I would think they would all be of the same consistant quality because Godet made all of them I believe and there were so few. Wouldnt they all be the same except for the hand finishing? I would expect no room for variants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 Hi Sal!What would an original sell for on today's market? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 Hi Sal!What would an original sell for on today's market?Around 75000? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Posted August 4, 2006 Share Posted August 4, 2006 I was offered a cased example a while back that cost ?35,000 so there appears to be a wide variation in prices. Here are the pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Posted August 4, 2006 Share Posted August 4, 2006 Reverse shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted August 4, 2006 Share Posted August 4, 2006 Wow... either one is a real chunck of change! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted August 4, 2006 Share Posted August 4, 2006 Stan, do you have better close up ? with the full MM ?jacques Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Posted August 4, 2006 Share Posted August 4, 2006 This is the best I have got.Stan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 Hi,Don't forget that these crosses are larger than the normal one : 58mm instead of 56mmhere is a blury pic of an old german magazine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 reverse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHE Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 I was offered a CASED example ...HelloStan, is it possible to see the case of cross, please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas 5 Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 Hi Stan :Is there a 53 on yours too , just hidden by the pin maybe ?Douglas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Baker Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 Interesting that in the magazine photo, the bottom arm of the Swaz looks trimmed off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas 5 Posted August 13, 2006 Share Posted August 13, 2006 Think that is just the shadow casted from the light comming from the top right corner . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Hi Stan :Is there a 53 on yours too , just hidden by the pin maybe ?DouglasDouglas,Here is a shot which includes the "53" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas 5 Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Thanks Stan, that is the closes I will ever get to one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Hi Stan,Except the pin which seems to be shorter, your cross looks like the one presented in the german magazine. But the price it has been proposed to you doesn't match to the current prices.Do you know its characteristics ?thanksjacques Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHE Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Stan does not make comments ? I have better photos of this cross.It is a FAKE.It was offered to sale 2-3 years ago in a original red box of the Gold Spanish cross.The price of the offer: 25000?P.S. Gentleman's, excuse me for my English Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Jacques,What do you mean by "characteristics"?Stan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 CHE,I never saw the Cross in person- I was just sent photos of it which I have now shared on the forum. Stan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Jacques,What do you mean by "characteristics"?StanI mean size, weight, metal used.jacques Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Sorry Jacques, but this info was not sent to me, only photos. I did not purchase the piece.Stan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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