Mongolia BEWARE of another deceiving order booklet

[Vatjan]

On ebay right now:

Does this look like someone who got a Sukhbaatar order in 1959. NO WAY

I do not believe for a minute that someone who got a SB in 1959 would have a picture in his order booklet where he is not wearing a tie or traditionnal Mongolian attire.

This perfectly valuable booklet has just been dowgraded by somebody who is actually hoping of making more money of it this way, sad sad sad

Edited September 13, 2006 by Vatjan

[Ed_Haynes]

Other words fail me. Well, actually, they don't. But I don't want to get censored . . . .

[Dolf]

Only the picture is bad, right? (Apparently not even the slightest trace of the stamp on the pic! And the guy certainly doesn't look like a 1959 Mongolian guy should look )

What about the rest of the booklet, probably ok, right?

Would that be too hard to remove the pic, btw?

Dolf

[Vatjan]

Only the picture is bad, right? (Apparently not even the slightest trace of the stamp on the pic! And the guy certainly doesn't look like a 1959 Mongolian guy should look )

What about the rest of the booklet, probably ok, right?

Would that be too hard to remove the pic, btw?

Dolf

The rest of the booklet looks fine, but how to remove the pic

[Ed_Haynes]

The problem is, I don't think stamps on pictures were as universal in Mongolia as they were in the Soviet Union, so their presence or absence is not as useful a diagnostic tool. This picture, however, stinks like six-week-old buuz! A lovely booklet spoiled, or at least harmed.

And how to remove the offending (and dumb) photo? Especially in a booklet that already seems to have pretty bad water damage.

Edited September 13, 2006 by Ed_Haynes

[Dolf]

The rest of the booklet looks fine, but how to remove the pic

I was thinking of the same process used to remove stamps from envelopes, for example: steam (I believe is the english word). It kind of dissolves the glue.

Just not sure it would work here because,

1- if some modern glue was used that would probably be quite hard to dissolve it

2- the process could damage the rest of the ink from the stamp

Dolf

Edited September 13, 2006 by Dolf

[Dolf]

The problem is, I don't think stamps on pictures were as universal in Mongolia as they were in the Soviet Union, so their presence or absence is not as useful a diagnostic tool.

Thanks.

Especially in a booklet that already seems to have pretty bad water damage.

Right

Dolf

[Stogieman]

There's so much water damage one has to suspect the book has already been soaked and possibly altered...

[Lingqi]

Hi guys, how about this one? a booklet for the Order of Reb banner of Labour with SN 817 and the Medal of Labour with SN 5161. The order was issued in 38, which was in 1948 and the medal in 1951.

[Lingqi]

Thanks in advance!

[Vatjan]

IMHO the small size of the picture, the stamp clearly visible on the pic and the traditinnal Mongolian clothing would make this one a good one.

[Ed_Haynes]

Agreed. Nice and I see no problems. And a couple of interesting date/number data points too!

[Lingqi]

Thanks! one more photo