EK 1914 Urgent Help on 1813 EK2

[DavidM]

Hello

Can anyone say if this is a good, original 1813 EK2 ?

Any help, advice or comments greatly appreciated.

The description of it is:

Iron Cross 2nd class 1813. The core which is cast Iron is undamaged but most of the black paint finish has gone giving a Iron grey finish. The cross is 42 mm wide approx and the loop is unmarked. The soldering is not so good and the frame is split in a couple of places on the internal arm of the cross.

Many thanks in advance for your help.

[Stogieman]

Looks like a ground down 1914 that was buried for awhile to me.

Core doesn't look right at all

Frame is not consistent with originals I have seen/handled/owned

[Tom Y]

Looks like a ground down 1914 that was buried for awhile to me.

Core doesn't look right at all

Frame is not consistent with originals I have seen/handled/owned

I second that.

[DavidM]

Hello

Many thanks for that. I've looked and looked at this one on the dealers site for a while, and I just couldn't place it with any others I have seen in books or on forums.

I won't be bothering with this one then.

[Daniel Murphy]

I agree it is a modified 1914. The original early 1813's had oakleaves that looked more like cabbage leaves and that zig zag stem is a dead givaway. Most real ones have a thin staight stem on the leaves.

Dan

[DavidM]

Hello

Thanks for that Dan. Useful information.

I had my own suspicions about it, which is why I posted it. As I said, one I'll not be bothering with.

[dond]

How does this one look?

[dond]

the obverse.

[gregM]

Don,

IMO this one is fake. It is posted on WAF and George has posted a link to a thread

that discusses a cross that was deemed to be fake and matches the on posted.

[Tom Y]

No, I don't like it. The finish is too smooth for a sand cast piece and the cores were blackened, not enameled.

[dond]

Thanks guys. I searched the old threads here and it is called ok in one of them. I'll dig it up later and correct it. I guess the hunt is still on.