speedytop Posted January 9, 2007 Posted January 9, 2007 (edited) Hi, I am a new member, but an old collector. My interests are far diversified. Some years ago I bought some nice pieces of a Marshal of the Sovietunion. On the basis of his ribbon bar I could identify him. And the most decorations on his bar are identified, but not all, beginning in the fifth row at the end. Can you please help me? Regards Uwe I beg your pardon for my bad English. Edited April 2, 2020 by speedytop
Riley1965 Posted January 9, 2007 Posted January 9, 2007 The last ribbon on the fifth row is from Poland the Order of polonia restituta, 5th class. Doc
speedytop Posted January 9, 2007 Author Posted January 9, 2007 Thank you for your comment.But it could not be, because it measures 39mm, and not 24/25mm as all before, and 39mm normally must be a higher class.Look at the sixth row in the middle, that is Poland, Grunwald cross I. class (35mm).RegardsUwe
Riley1965 Posted January 9, 2007 Posted January 9, 2007 The ribbon without attachments is the 5th Class of Polonia Restituta. I agree that a Marshal should have received a higher class. However, this is not the first time that I've seen the 5th Class of the PR awarded to a high ranking Soviet officer...General and Marshal. Doc
Riley1965 Posted January 9, 2007 Posted January 9, 2007 The width of the ribbon is correct for the Polonia Restituta. Doc
speedytop Posted January 9, 2007 Author Posted January 9, 2007 (edited) Hi Doc, I beg your pardon, but this Marshall of the Sovietunion had only one polish order, the Grunwald cross I. class. Please have a look at the enclosed picture, there you can see the very small white stripes on the ribbon of an order polonia restituta 1944, 5th class. That does not match. Regards Uwe Edited April 2, 2020 by speedytop
Guest Rick Research Posted January 9, 2007 Posted January 9, 2007 I think because the 1st ribbon in Row 6 is the Czech War Cross 1939, that last ribbon in Row 5 is the Czech Order of the White Lion.Last ribbon in Row 6 is a quite interesting CLOTH version of the original pre-1961 ENAMEL ribbon of the Mongolian Order of the Combat/Military Red Banner.The very last ribbon must be Rumanian from the colors.Look at Lukasz Gaszewski's EXCELLENT Ribbons Of The World website =http://www.medals.lava.pl/index.htm
Ed_Haynes Posted January 9, 2007 Posted January 9, 2007 Last ribbon in Row 6 is a quite interesting CLOTH version of the original pre-1961 ENAMEL ribbon of the Mongolian Order of the Combat/Military Red Banner.More precisely, it is an inventive effort at rendering the ribbon in cloth and with some seamstress help from the recipient's wife. An interesting and cute fantasy.
NavyFCO Posted January 9, 2007 Posted January 9, 2007 More precisely, it is an inventive effort at rendering the ribbon in cloth and with some seamstress help from the recipient's wife. An interesting and cute fantasy.This ribbon configuration with the stitched detail on the ribbon is actually quite common like this. I believe it was the "norm" for high-ranking recipients to have their ribbons for this award made this way. I've seen three or four uniforms from different officers with that ribbon the way it is.Dave
Ed_Haynes Posted January 9, 2007 Posted January 9, 2007 This ribbon configuration with the stitched detail on the ribbon is actually quite common like this. I believe it was the "norm" for high-ranking recipients to have their ribbons for this award made this way. I've seen three or four uniforms from different officers with that ribbon the way it is.DaveThanks, Dave. Interesting.
NavyFCO Posted January 9, 2007 Posted January 9, 2007 Does anyone have a copy of "Marshals and Admirals of the Fleet of the USSR" handy to ID this Marshal? (If it is indeed a real one?) My copy is unfortunately about 600 miles away from me at the moment. Dave
speedytop Posted January 9, 2007 Author Posted January 9, 2007 (edited) Thank you for your replies!Row 5, last ribbon, is just that, what I had identified:Czech Republic, Order of the White Lion 1. class.You can find this Marshal and just exactly this ribbon bar on pages 110 to 117 in the book "Marshals and Admirals of the Fleet of the USSR", the ribbon bar on page 116!It isMarshal of the Soviet Union Golikov(It is a real one) RegardsUwe Edited January 9, 2007 by speedytop
speedytop Posted January 10, 2007 Author Posted January 10, 2007 (edited) Let us first have a look at the other items in that lot. The first pair of shoulder straps Edited April 2, 2020 by speedytop
speedytop Posted January 10, 2007 Author Posted January 10, 2007 (edited) The second pair of shoulder straps. Edited April 2, 2020 by speedytop
speedytop Posted January 10, 2007 Author Posted January 10, 2007 (edited) Two pairs of collar tabs Edited April 2, 2020 by speedytop
speedytop Posted January 10, 2007 Author Posted January 10, 2007 (edited) And last but not least: Sword knot of a honorary revolutionary weapon (Order of the Red Banner) Regards Uwe Edited April 2, 2020 by speedytop
Riley1965 Posted January 10, 2007 Posted January 10, 2007 Speedytop,My apologies Sir!! You are correct about the ribbon. The white stripes are to wide to be the PR but instead the Grunwald.
speedytop Posted January 10, 2007 Author Posted January 10, 2007 Here is my list, but not complete.Is it possible, to have a complete list? 1st row: Order of Lenin No. 6614, 22.02.1941 Order of Lenin No. 23475, 21.02.1945 Order of Lenin No. 124272, 20.07.1950 Order of Lenin No. 332785, 15.07.1960 2nd row: Order of the Red Banner No. 77, 20.02.1933 Order of the Red Banner 2 No. 991, 03.01.1942 Order of the Red Banner 3 No. 1330, 03.11.1944 Order of the Red Banner 4 No. 993, 03.01.1942 3rd row: Order of Suvorov No. 11, 18.01.1943 Order of Kutuzov No. 187, 22.02.1944 Order of the Red Star No. 1648, 16.08.1936 Medal XXth Anniversary of the Workers and Peasents Red Army 4th row: Medal Defence of Moscow Medal Defence of Stalingrad Medal Victory over Germany Medal Victory over Japan 5th row: Medal 800th Anniversary of the Foundation of Moscow Medal 30th Anniversary of the Workers and Peasents Red Army Medal 40th Anniversary of the Workers and Peasents Red Army Czechoslovakia: Order of the White Lion 1st class, 1948 6th row: Czechoslovakia: War Cross 1939, 1943 Poland: Order of the Grunwald cross Ist class, 1946 Mongolia: Order of the Red Combat Banner No. 2531, 1945 7th row: Yugoslavia: Order of Merit to the Nation with Gold Star, 1946 Yugoslavia: Order of the Partizan Star with Gold Wreath, 1946 (?) ? Romania Order of Defense of the Country 2nd class, 1950 RegardsUwe
speedytop Posted January 24, 2007 Author Posted January 24, 2007 (edited) Hi, nobody can help me with this one bar? Edited April 2, 2020 by speedytop
speedytop Posted January 24, 2007 Author Posted January 24, 2007 (edited) This is the foto out of the book "Marshals and Admirals of the Fleet of the USSR", page 116. That is exact the bar in my collection (picture from 1962): Regards Uwe Edited April 2, 2020 by speedytop
Riley1965 Posted January 24, 2007 Posted January 24, 2007 (edited) Speedytop.The ribbon is possibly from Poland, Brotherhood in Arms Decoration. Doc Edited January 24, 2007 by Riley1965
speedytop Posted January 24, 2007 Author Posted January 24, 2007 (edited) Hi Riley, a very good idea. But when I compare it, there are there several points not matching: - the colour of the Golikov bar is more red than brown - the width of the stripes is different, the middle stripes on the Golikov bar are smaller - the medal is instituted 1963, the picture is from 1962 - no listing of this medal in the above named book But it could be? Regards Uwe Edited April 2, 2020 by speedytop
Christophe Posted January 24, 2007 Posted January 24, 2007 (edited) This is a medal from Romania : the Medal Liberation from the Fascist Yoke. Here is the medal. Ch. Edited April 2, 2020 by speedytop
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