paul w Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 Hello gents, I was very fortunate last week to be able to aquire the bordjacke belonging to Herbert Kuhn who I believe was the 1st officer on U-331 at the time of the sinking of HMS Barham on 25th November 1941,some of you might recognise it as it used to reside in Michels collection.Apart from the fact that I was delighted to pick up a bordjacke at all,the fact that it belonged to an officer from this particular U-boat had a lot of significance for me as my father was on the Barham when she was torpedoed by U-331.As well as pictures of the Bordjacke I thought you might like to see some mementos kept by my family regarding this incident.I hope its appropriate to post them in this KM forum,if not perhaps a moderator could remove them,many thanks,Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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paul w Posted January 23, 2007 Author Share Posted January 23, 2007 5.The Barham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul w Posted January 23, 2007 Author Share Posted January 23, 2007 6.SSX 29756 Able Seaman Albert George Walsham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul w Posted January 23, 2007 Author Share Posted January 23, 2007 The sinking wasn't reported in the papers until 1945. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul w Posted January 23, 2007 Author Share Posted January 23, 2007 Daily Mirror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul w Posted January 23, 2007 Author Share Posted January 23, 2007 It was however,reported to the rest of the Royal Navy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul w Posted January 23, 2007 Author Share Posted January 23, 2007 Casualty list,it goes on for several more pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul w Posted January 23, 2007 Author Share Posted January 23, 2007 Service record,10th line down,note date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Williamson Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Super jacket. And from the best source - you can be sure that anything Michel owned will be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 I am glad that you, of all people were able to obtain this jacket. The Capt could have been actually wearing this very jacket at the time of the torpedo incident? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul w Posted January 24, 2007 Author Share Posted January 24, 2007 Cheers Gordon, I was very pleased with the jacket and when the seller said it was from Michels collection I snapped it up.Thanks Paul,theres no way of knowing if Kuhn had this jacket at the time of the Barham sinking but its stamped 1941 so it could well be,strange feeling owning it though,all the best,Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KM-SPAIN Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Hello Paul, can you show me a picture of the date stamp.Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul w Posted January 25, 2007 Author Share Posted January 25, 2007 There you go Eduardo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KM-SPAIN Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Thanks Paul, has it any tag with the sizes and tunic model as usualy has the britsh battle dress? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul w Posted January 26, 2007 Author Share Posted January 26, 2007 Sorry Eduardo,no other tags or marks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdlasalle Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 (edited) Congradulations Paul, a really great jacket! It's awesome Michel also has this man's white topped cap, boardjacket, compliment of badges, medals and photos. Shame to see the group broken up. Edited January 27, 2007 by gdlasalle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michel Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Hello All, I have not many time with my work at this moment to be on the forum regulary. To explain, I sold this U-Bordjacke to a Spanish collector who badgered me to sell him some items of my collection. To dissuade him, I announced a very high price. As he accepted this price, I had to respect my words and to sold this attributed U-Bordjacke to him. I cannot understand this guy, who lost a lot of money in some months. Great for you Paul, because if I saw it before you at this price... It is the misunderstanding and crazy world of the collection. I will post some pictures of the Kühn's items later. Best regards, Michel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KM-SPAIN Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Hello Michel, do you have any picture of K?hn usung this tunic?, can you show us?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michel Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 <!--quoteo(post=143424:date=Jan 27 2007, 11:07 :name=KM-SPAIN)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(KM-SPAIN @ Jan 27 2007, 11:07 ) ←</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Hello Michel, do you have any picture of K?hn usung this tunic?, can you show us?.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Hello Eduardo, Sadly no, the same for his named blue tunic and white cap, maybe one day. I had, in my collection, a little group for an officer of U-331, I found some pictures where I can see Kühn, so it is possible to find other pictures one day showing Kühn using his U-Bordjacke. The collection is built with time, informations, attention and perseverance. Regards, Michel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul w Posted January 28, 2007 Author Share Posted January 28, 2007 Thanks Michel,for explaining how the jacket came to be sold.I was very surprised to see it for sale,but delighted of course!.One thing that intrigues me,you have shown Kuhns decorations in a previous thread,are these all of his decorations?I only ask because I am surprised he that such an experienced U-boat officer did not also hold the front spange at least in bronze.thanks again,Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 I am the "crazy guy" who was the second owner of Khun bordjacke.After several weeks of dealing Michel was very kind and said yes to sell me that tunic at the agrred price. It was a very nice one and full of story but I had to sell it for get the cap of a Uboat RK winner.I really didnt sell to the dealer the tunic at that price as was a complete group that I sold for get the cash I need for my RK winner cap, but the dealer wanted to put the tunic at that price.Again thanks to Michel for let me get so wonderfull tunic from his excellent collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdlasalle Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 Hey Vic, what cap did you get? Was it the one on regimentals? Also, what did you mean the boardjacket was part of a group? You mean there were other items from Kuhn?regards,Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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