Interesting CDV of Prussian Lieutenant

[sambolini]

Hi,

I thought I'd post this interesting study of a prussian lieutenant with an EK1 and 3er spange consisting of the EK1, MVO4x, SLKVK.

Regards,

Sam

[sambolini]

Sorry, posted close up first. Here's the full image.

Edited March 12, 2007 by sambolini

[Guest Rick Research]

What regiment is he in? .. .. 5?

[sambolini]

What regiment is he in? .. .. 5?

Hi Rick,

It's "15".

Sam

P.S. Were'nt these type of medal bars (trapezoidal) out of style by WWI?

Edited March 12, 2007 by sambolini

[dwmosher]

Sam

Cool picture. J.R. 15 was part of the 26 Inf. Brig of 13 I.D (exclusively on the western front). Also included in the 26 Inf. Brig. was J.R. 55 and Jag Btl. 7. I would presume the tie in for SLKVK in the bar would be for the 3rd Batl of J.R. 55 or from Jag Batl. 7 since they are from Lippe-Detmold and Schaumberg-Lippe, respectively. I'm not sure what the tie for a Bavarian other ranks medal (not order) would be for this unit. Looks like an NCO promotion ...

Dave

[Dave Danner]

Hi,

I thought I'd post this interesting study of a prussian lieutenant with an EK1 and 3er spange consisting of the EK1, MVO4x, SLKVK.

Regards,

Sam

Just "L", not "SL". The Kreigsverdienstkreuz of Lippe-Detmold, not Schaumburg-Lippe. IR 15 was a Westphalian regiment garrisoned in Minden, on the Weser to the north of Lippe-Detmold and just across the river from Schaumburg-Lippe. It wasn't directly connected to the two principalities, but indirectly, especially to Schaumburg-Lippe.

It would make more sense were there an "R" on the cover, since RIR 15 was the reserve regiment for both IR 15 and IR 55. III./RIR 15 was raised in Detmold, the capital of Lippe.

[Stogieman]

Yes. Trapezoidal bars were an archaic fashion by about 1915/16... +/-. However, many NCO's. long-serving other ranks and holdover officers from Colonial era still wore them. Expensive to change.... perhaps. You will even find the style used into the 1920's!!

[sambolini]

Hi all,

Thanks for all the insight, although I really enjoy imperial awards , I'll never understand all the unit affilations, etc....amazing the knowledge here. I have a lot of studying to do.

Regards,

Sam

[Guest Rick Research]

It would indeed have been a VERY odd style of MEDAL bar for an officer, and that makes it a VERY interesting portrait! He must have been a fairly early recipient of the EK 1-- which I also would guess from the facial shrubbery, and the number still on the helmet cover, so perhaps he decided on a cheapie dual purpose bar. I bet this was taken in 1915, before the smaller ribbon bars were authorized.

[Ulsterman]

Interesting indeed! Now I know where that one of the five went.

[sambolini]

Aha Ulsterman, you speak the truth! I did not realize there was more than one. Do you have the others?

Regards,

Sam

[Ulsterman]

a couple-but the really good ones I was outbid on.

[sambolini]

Hi,

The one you posted looks pretty good to me. Please post the other if you would. I only saw the one I purchased.

Regards,

Sam