A group of old British medals

[michmuch]

Hello,

A friend is proposing me this lot of British medals found in France.

There are all in perfect condition, and most of them are attributed to the same person ( a surgeon whose highest grade is lt Col)

Could you help me to identify them ?

What would be the value of these ?

Thanks in advance for your help.

JM

[Kev in Deva]

Hallo michmuch,

you have in your pictures The Queen Victoria Egypt Medal (1882-1889,) with Suakin Clasp 1885, along with the Khedive's star 1882-1891.

Minitures of the above group.

On the big bar with two medals is: India General Service Medal with Abor 1911 - 1912 clasp.

Ribbons for the 3 WW1 Service Medals.

Coronation Medal 1911 King George V and Quuen Mary

1 Order Of the British Empire (O.B.E).

Unknown to me eppulatte.

Kevin in Deva.

[Great Dane]

Isn't that the Delhi Durbar version of the 1911 Coronation Medal?

/Mike

[Kev in Deva]

Isn't that the Delhi Durbar version of the 1911 Coronation Medal?

/Mike

Hallo Mike,

With regards the Coronation Medal of 1911:

"Those who were also entitled to the Delhi Darbar Medal received a crowned clasp inscribeded DEHLI if they had been previously been awarded the coronation medal. this was the first occasion that the medal might be awarded to those not actually present at the ceremony itself."

Page 273 Coronation and Jubilee Medals, The Medals Yearbook of 2006.

Kevin in Deva.

[Great Dane]

Yes, but that paragraph only refers to those who were entitled to both versions (the 'normal' 1911 coronation medal and the 1911 Delhi Durbar version).

It is quite clear in picture #2 that this is the 1911 Delhi Durbar medal.

Here is a Delhi Durbar medal (reverse) from Liverpool Medals:

/Mike

[Kev in Deva]

Yes, but that paragraph only refers to those who were entitled to both versions (the 'normal' 1911 coronation medal and the 1911 Delhi Durbar version).

It is quite clear in picture #2 that this is the 1911 Delhi Durbar medal.

Here is a Delhi Durbar medal (reverse) from Liverpool Medals:

/Mike

Hallo Mike,

I believe you have hit the nail on the head with your identification, I must admit it was not till I copied and highlighted the rear of this medal could I make out any of the detail!! (I know, New Glasses needed)

Pity its not the Gold version though Kevin in Deva

[Jacky]

1 Order Of the British Empire (O.B.E).

Kevin in Deva.

I'm sorry to have to correct you, but it's not the OBE but the MBE

It's silver coloured opposed to gilted!

Kind regards,

Jacky

[Kev in Deva]

I'm sorry to have to correct you, but it's not the OBE but the MBE

It's silver coloured opposed to gilted!

Kind regards,

Jacky

Hallo Jacky, you are correct, missed the intials on the box!!! Now I know I need new glasses

Kevin in Deva

[michmuch]

Hello everybody.

Thanks a lot for your kind help in the identification of this medal grouping.

It is highly appreciated.

This group belonged to C. SEYMOUR.

The Egypt Suakin medal is engraved "SURGn C. SEYMOUR M.B. MED STAFF"

The Egypt star is not attributed.

The "TABOR" medal : "Captain C.G. Seymour I M S"

The Delhi Durbar medal is not attributed

The MBE is not attributed

The 1914-1915 star is engraved "CAPT. C. G. SEYMOUR I.M.S."

The 1914-1918 medal is engraved "LT. COL. C. G. SEYMOUR"

The "Great War for civilisation" as well.

With this type of information, is it possible to get more details of the career of the recipient of these medals ?

Best regards,

Jean-Michel

[Ed_Haynes]

I very nice Indian Medical Service group. When I get back to my library, I can fill in some information for you.

[peter monahan]

The epaulette doesn't seem to fit the group - button seems to have an anchor on it and the braid up the center is very "un-British" (if that's a word). Maybe French - colonial troops of some sort?

Peter

[Ed_Haynes]

The epaulette doesn't seem to fit the group - button seems to have an anchor on it and the braid up the center is very "un-British" (if that's a word). Maybe French - colonial troops of some sort?

Peter

While I can't see it clearly, it looks like a standard IMS collar tab to me?

[peter monahan]

From the Indian Army List, 1924:

Seymour, C. G., Maj. Ret'd, I. M. S. -

Operations in the Abor Country, 1911-12

The War of 1914 21. - Operations in German E. Africa between Sept. 14 and Jany. 18 - Despatches, London Gaz., 30 Jun. 16 and 7 Mar. 18.

Hope this helps

Peter

Edited March 14, 2007 by peter monahan

[Ulsterman]

Chris boonzaair is going to die.

Really nice group.

[Megan]

The 'little epaulettes' are collar tabs - originally intended to indicate that the wearer had passed Staff College but now generally worn by everyone of about Colonel or above rank. The dark red on dark blue colouration would fit with your man being a medical officer rather than a line one.

[michmuch]

Hello,

Thanks for all your posts and comments on this group of medals.

I now have it at home and I am considering to sell it but I would rather trade it against good French militaria before 1914. I am especially intersted in 2nd Empire items such as headgear and uniforms.

Ideally, I would like to have a clear idea of the market value of this lot, which would not mean I would sell it at the high price, but at least to have a base.

JM

[Michael Johnson]

From the Indian Army List, 1924:

Seymour, C. G., Maj. Ret'd, I. M. S. -

Operations in the Abor Country, 1911-12

The War of 1914 21. - Operations in German E. Africa between Sept. 14 and Jany. 18 - Despatches, London Gaz., 30 Jun. 16 and 7 Mar. 18.

Hope this helps

Peter

b. 9 Sept. 1891

St. Thomas M.R.C.S. 1902

L.R.C.P. Lond. 1902

Lt. 1903

Capt. 31 Jan. 1906

Major 31 jULY 1914

D.T.M. and H. Cantab. 1920 (Diploma, Tropical Medecine and Hygeine)

Retired 6 June 1921

The Egypt pair is probably his father's - British Army.

[michmuch]

The Egypt pair is probably his father's - British Army.