Luka Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 (edited) The seller tried to jack the price up becasue he claimed that the badge is made of solid silver (!)Dear hunyadi!The star on that order IS made of solid silver(you can see 3 stamps on it, all ex yugo orders marked with 3 stamps are made of solid silver )Hehe it seems you have jacked the seller Edited August 17, 2007 by Luka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunyadi Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 (edited) Dear hunyadi!The star on that order IS made of solid silver(you can see 3 stamps on it, all ex yugo orders marked with 3 stamps are made of solid silver )Hehe it seems you have jacked the seller Well - that is some good news - thanks for that bit of information! What I had thouhgt was heavy plating flaking off is just some good layers of patina.Slightly but is there a good silver industry in Jugoslavia? Edited August 17, 2007 by hunyadi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valuk Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted September 13, 2007 Author Share Posted September 13, 2007 A nice 5 torches exemple! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valuk Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 And what about this new addition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 Red box , well that is new to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valuk Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 I think that the red boxes the newest, before they used mostly blue boxes. Can anyone confirm that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Craig Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 On Hunyadi's order, and others I have seen posted on the forum, the hallmarks have been at the latch end of the pin. I saw onw today that appeared to have the hallmarks to the left of the hinge. The marks were very small and hard to make out. Is it normal to see the hallmarks in this location or are they always down by the latch?Regards,GordonDetail of the reverse. The seller tried to jack the price up becasue he claimed that the badge is made of solid silver (!) I am going to assume that these are heavy plated and not solid? Dealers are funny - its like he was expecting me to melt it down for more 'value'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlodzimierz Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 Gordon,as far I know, the position of hallmarks on image in posting #3 is typical, orders made from silvered tombac have no hallmarks. But would not bet on it.best regardswaldemar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Craig Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 waldemar,Thanks for the post. Can you post the weight of a silver award and a tomback award? Is there a significant difference? The one I held yesterday certainly seemed very heavy.Regards,Gordon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlodzimierz Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 Can you post the weight of a silver award and a tomback award?Not yet, I have no good equipment in order to provide these data. Sorry. Generally there should be no 5torches order made from tomback. Only 6torches. As far I know in all orders central part is made from tombac gilded in 1st and 2nd class and silvered in 3rd class.Only star could be made from silver or tombac, as I already posted earlier.Maybe somebody from forum can post the weight of these orders.regardswaldemar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Craig Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 waldemar,Thanks for the response. The five torch/six torch info makes it easy to work with.Regards,Gordon Not yet, I have no good equipment in order to provide these data. Sorry. Generally there should be no 5torches order made from tomback. Only 6torches. As far I know in all orders central part is made from tombac gilded in 1st and 2nd class and silvered in 3rd class.Only star could be made from silver or tombac, as I already posted earlier.Maybe somebody from forum can post the weight of these orders.regardswaldemar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted September 12, 2008 Author Share Posted September 12, 2008 Which one is the oldest one? The 2 boxes are differents, however the orders look the same.#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted September 12, 2008 Author Share Posted September 12, 2008 #2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted September 12, 2008 Author Share Posted September 12, 2008 Obverse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted September 12, 2008 Author Share Posted September 12, 2008 Reverse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SasaYU Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 # 2 is the older one.The name of the order was "Orden za vojne zasluge III reda" and later it was renamed to "orden ya vojne zasluge sa srebrnim macevima". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 (edited) . Edited September 12, 2008 by Luka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister No Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Box number 2 is from period 1955-15.3.1961.Box number 1 is from period 15.3.1961-1963.After 1963. is same name on the box, but order have 6 torches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted September 13, 2008 Author Share Posted September 13, 2008 Thank you for your information guys! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakov Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Box number 2 is from period 1955-15.3.1961.Box number 1 is from period 15.3.1961-1963.After 1963. is same name on the box, but order have 6 torches.That is very useful information. Thank you very much Mister No I have 3 different Orden za vojne zasluge III. red, medals, and 4 different cases, I ll post some pictures tommorow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlodzimierz Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 I think that we will have to change our typology of this order.The first model were showed already, but I will show it later again.This is second model, first type with 5 torches made from silvered tombac without hallmarks. Three other types are well known as described by Bryan in first posting in this thread.Here are images: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlodzimierz Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 5 torches: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlodzimierz Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 and Reverse without hallmarks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted April 25, 2009 Author Share Posted April 25, 2009 Very nice 1st class! This is still missing to my collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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