Poland Unknown Items

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I was sent the pictures by a dealer as Polish items, I was just wonder if any one coluldshed any more light on them

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[Kev in Deva]

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Hallo O. o. V,

the cross appears to be the Polish Order of Military Virtue, the insignia possibly a Polish Regiment Badge, again caution is needed with these items because like Russian Imperial items there are known fakes, but I suggest you ask Lukas to have a look being our resident Polish expert

Kevin in Deva

[Kev in Deva]

I would also ask the dealer to send a picture of the rear of the cross, they are issue numbered.

Kevin in Deva

[Dave Danner]

The Virtuti Militari Silver Merit Cross, judging by its appearance, is a current republic version. Since none have actually been issued, the ones you see on the market are basically reproductions for the collector market.

The regimental badge is for the 66th Kashubian Infantry Regiment. As Kevin notes, these are heavily faked.

[speedytop]

Hi O.o.V.

sorry, only in German

Poland:

4. Zaniemenski Ulanenregiment

and

66. Infanterieregiment Marschall Pilsudskis Kaschuben

Regards

Uwe

Edited March 25, 2007 by speedytop

[Lukasz Gaszewski]

Uwe is right! The badges are of the 4th Zaniemenski Lancers Rgt. and 66th Kaszubski Infantry Rgt. of J?zef Pilsudski.

It is dangerous to judge just from the photos, but to me the VM looks like a modern copy of the pre-WWII type, too. The ribbon doesn't look genuine, either. Could you post the photo of the reverse and the dimensions of both the cross and ribbon? There should be a number on the lower arm.

As of the regimental badges, the photos of the reverses would be nice too. The 4th Lancers badge is the officer type (the NCO type had no enamel). The "U4" on the lower arm is slimmer than usually found. On the reverse there was usually the number and recipient's name, but that was not always the case.

Lukasz

[order_of_victory]

Uwe is right! The badges are of the 4th Zaniemenski Lancers Rgt. and 66th Kaszubski Infantry Rgt. of J?zef Pilsudski.

It is dangerous to judge just from the photos, but to me the VM looks like a modern copy of the pre-WWII type, too. The ribbon doesn't look genuine, either. Could you post the photo of the reverse and the dimensions of both the cross and ribbon? There should be a number on the lower arm.

As of the regimental badges, the photos of the reverses would be nice too. The 4th Lancers badge is the officer type (the NCO type had no enamel). The "U4" on the lower arm is slimmer than usually found. On the reverse there was usually the number and recipient's name, but that was not always the case.

Lukasz

Thanks for your comments, I have spoken to the seller and he has not got any pics at the moment but if i get them I will let you know

These are not realy my area of intrest but if any one else is intrested I can send you the seller details

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