Austria-Hungary Militarverdeinstkreuz kreuz with KD

[Alex K]

Hi all, I have in my collection the following MVK with KD. It all came like this. I have however noticed the MVK with a different ribbon, is this the correct ribbon for this award with the KD attachment. The case does say KD although the lettering is quite faded.

any help appreciated

regards

Alex

[Daniel Krause]

No, Your Ribbon is that from the Karl Troop Cross.

Correct ribbon is

[Kev in Deva]

Hallo Alex K,

even with the wrong ribbon its a sweet cross and box, feel free to post a picture of the rear.

Kevin in Deva.

[Alex K]

Kevin attached

regards

Alex

[Alex K]

kevin just for clarification, should I be looking for this ribbon but with the KD swords attached

thanks

Edited April 7, 2007 by Alex K

[Kev in Deva]

kevin just for clarification, should I be looking for this ribbon but with the KD swords attached

thanks

Hallo Alex K

You only need the ribbon, as the Swords on the "Karl Troop Cross" ribbon should not be there, in my opinion.

Sometimes finding the Austrian swords alone is very hard

Kevin in Deva.

Edited April 7, 2007 by Kev in Deva

[Guest Rick Research]

Swords on the generic war ribbon were only authorized at the end of 1916, for all awards using that ribbon EXCEPT the Bravery Medals.

[Lukasz Gaszewski]

It shouldn't be difficult to obtain a replacement ribbon (even an original one) for your MVK. Your swords will fit it well!

[Josef Rietveld]

@Alex,

nice Cross in rare type of box. your cross is a variant type. this crosses were sold for dedications. therefore the backside center was made of silver (for engraving) instead of the usual white enamel.

if you ever want so sell. feel free sending me an PM

hayna

[Alex K]

haynau thanks for the info, for the time being I'll hang onto it but if I decide to sell, I'll keep your details on file

regards

[Alex K]

Just to resurrect this for another silly question, How are the swords attached to the ribbons, I've had a look and can see no obvious method of securing the swords, were they sewn on? there doesn't appear to be any pins through the ribbon.

regards

Alex

[Kev in Deva]

Hallo Alex,

I have checked whats the method of fixing attachments for swords on my Austrian bars, all have thin wire, for the purpose.

Please see attached pictures.

Kevin in Deva

[Kev in Deva]

Inside the ribbons folds.

Kevin in Deva

[Kev in Deva]

Push-stud fastenings on the rear of the ribbon.

Kevin in Deva

[Alex K]

Hi Kevin thanks for the reply, I'm sure I had a look at the back of the ribbon, unfortunately it's tri-fold so it was difficult, and didn't see any, however I'll take another look. BTW like those press studs!

Regards

Alex

[Kev in Deva]

Hi Kevin thanks for the reply, BTW like those press studs!

Regards Alex

Hallo Alex,

there was many versions of them too,

Kevin in Deva

[Alex K]

Not wishing to para-phrase but WOW! ?not seen these before, are they particular to AH awards?

regards

Alex

[Guest Rick Research]

Yes-- clips or snaps to fit over the horizontal loops by which each individual award or its ribbon was weakly and messily attached.

[Alex K]

So that's why many period photo's show little loops on their uniforms without any dec's, presumably when you received a decoration you just slipped the ribbon bar into pre-sewn loops! clever.

Alex

[Alex K]

Kevin, Thanks for the comments, However as I said in earlier post, I would have another look, the results are attached, summary, no stitching on the front and no pins on the back!! what else Glue!!!

regards

Alex

[bazsi]

Most of the cases when the backside center damaged from wear, used to replace it with silver center. I saw one with navy button center once, but I think it was a modification by a collector.

Regards,

Bazsi