order_of_victory Posted May 8, 2007 Posted May 8, 2007 Here is set of docs to one person who got his OGPW 2nd class in 1967 and his first calss in 1985Heres OGPW 2nd Class documentOrder of Victory
Christian Zulus Posted May 8, 2007 Posted May 8, 2007 Dear Vic,great set .You should research them, because the comrade should have got some other decorations of the GPW before.If he only got only the OPW 2cl in 1967 (as a catch-up) and nothing more for his service in the GPW, then it is highly unusual, that he received a OPW 1cl in 1985 .Best regards Christian
Guest Rick Research Posted May 8, 2007 Posted May 8, 2007 That's GOT to be a disabled war invalid set. It would be very interesting to get the research done for the OPW2-- have you got the Orders or just the paperwork?
Christian Zulus Posted May 8, 2007 Posted May 8, 2007 That's GOT to be a disabled war invalid set. It would be very interesting to get the research done for the OPW2-- have you got the Orders or just the paperwork?Dear Rick,o.k., if it's one of the "disabled-sets", why didn't he get another OPW 2cl in 1985 ?Our comrade got in 1985 an OPW 1cl ...Best regards Christian
order_of_victory Posted May 8, 2007 Author Posted May 8, 2007 Thanks very much gys for the info I have got his low down down medals and award cardsHeres the rest of award cardsOrder of Victory
order_of_victory Posted May 8, 2007 Author Posted May 8, 2007 Heres the reverse of the docs on has some scribbles on itOrder of Victory
NavyFCO Posted May 8, 2007 Posted May 8, 2007 o.k., if it's one of the "disabled-sets", why didn't he get another OPW 2cl in 1985 ?He received the OGPW1 in 1985 because he was a wounded invalid. That was the award that the invalid soliders were supposed to receive in 1985 (though it didn't always happen). If you see a late Red Star, Glory 3rd or OGPW2 and a 1985 OGPW1, you can be almost 99% ensured that the person was wounded during WW2. The catch-up award was one for wounds, and the OGPW1 was awarded by Ukaz for invalid veterans.Dave
Guest Rick Research Posted May 8, 2007 Posted May 8, 2007 Disabled veteran 1985 OPW1 groups:I cannot read the stamps on those medal cards, or what is on the back cover-- too small and far away. I think he may have lived in the city of Gomel, if I am reading one of those jubilees correctly.
Christian Zulus Posted May 8, 2007 Posted May 8, 2007 He received the OGPW1 in 1985 because he was a wounded invalid. That was the award that the invalid soliders were supposed to receive in 1985 (though it didn't always happen). If you see a late Red Star, Glory 3rd or OGPW2 and a 1985 OGPW1, you can be almost 99% ensured that the person was wounded during WW2. The catch-up award was one for wounds, and the OGPW1 was awarded by Ukaz for invalid veterans.DaveDear Dave,many thanks for your expertise .I actually didn't know, that invalid veterans got "automatically" an OGPW 1cl in 1985 .Best regards Christian
order_of_victory Posted May 9, 2007 Author Posted May 9, 2007 Thanks Dave for the clarification Is it worth researching document only groups Order of Victory
order_of_victory Posted May 9, 2007 Author Posted May 9, 2007 Hi Rick,You know I cant scan documents to save my life On the second ribbon bar what are the medals, there are a few there I dont recognise Order of Victory
Guest Rick Research Posted May 9, 2007 Posted May 9, 2007 Those are all CZECH-- 3 War Crosses, 2 Valor Medals, 1944 Dukla Pass campaign medal, and WW2 commemoraative medal.
order_of_victory Posted May 9, 2007 Author Posted May 9, 2007 Thanks Rick a great bar Order of Victory
NavyFCO Posted May 9, 2007 Posted May 9, 2007 Is it worth researching document only groups That's a question only you can answer. If you must know about a document group and are willing to shell out $55+ to research it, knowing full well that you'll probably not get that out of 95% of groups, that's up to you. I have researched several document-only groups to HSUs and famous generals, but that's because the research added more to the story. For example, I researched Koldunov's group as even without the Lenin Prize, it's still worth a lot of money and the research really adds to the history of it. Dave
Belaruski Posted May 9, 2007 Posted May 9, 2007 (edited) Nice group, and he's a Belarusian too! (He does live in Gomel).The 45-95 award document is relatively rare in that it has the 'pahonia' emblem on the stamp instead of the current Belarusian state emblem as adopted following the 1995 referendum.Most have the more Soviet stamp! Edited May 9, 2007 by Belaruski
order_of_victory Posted May 10, 2007 Author Posted May 10, 2007 That's a question only you can answer. If you must know about a document group and are willing to shell out $55+ to research it, knowing full well that you'll probably not get that out of 95% of groups, that's up to you. I have researched several document-only groups to HSUs and famous generals, but that's because the research added more to the story. For example, I researched Koldunov's group as even without the Lenin Prize, it's still worth a lot of money and the research really adds to the history of it. DaveThanks Dave, I think this one may be an intresting research project and I may not get the money back but it would be nice to see a catch up award card Order of Victory
order_of_victory Posted May 10, 2007 Author Posted May 10, 2007 Nice group, and he's a Belarusian too! (He does live in Gomel).The 45-95 award document is relatively rare in that it has the 'pahonia' emblem on the stamp instead of the current Belarusian state emblem as adopted following the 1995 referendum.Most have the more Soviet stamp!Wow this group keeps geting better Thanks Belaruski for the info I am deffinitly going to get researched Order of Victory
Chuck In Oregon Posted May 11, 2007 Posted May 11, 2007 Here in Georgia it was not uncommon for an OPW-2 winner to receive a Chernenko OPW-1 if he had risen in prominence in the party or elsewhere. That's merely an alternate to the invalid award possibility, of course. I can't speak for elsewhere.Chuck
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