Ulsterman Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 Here's a snap of some troops in China at the turn of the century or thereabouts...anyone know what the armshields are? Are they marksman's competition awards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted June 25, 2007 Author Share Posted June 25, 2007 Heres the larger view....Sorry-the photo is just faded: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Y Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 They don't appear to be the right shape for a Schutzenpreis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted June 25, 2007 Author Share Posted June 25, 2007 no-they are rounder.But GREAT schutzprize though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 I don't know if any more enlarging of the insignia would make any difference, but being that the patch is round, it might be pioneer's patch (crossed pick and shovel). The Seebataillon pioneers wore such a patch in China. Other than that, I can think of nothing official.Chip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilles Posted July 8, 2007 Share Posted July 8, 2007 (edited) I don't know if any more enlarging of the insignia would make any difference, but being that the patch is round, it might be pioneer's patch (crossed pick and shovel). The Seebataillon pioneers wore such a patch in China. Other than that, I can think of nothing official.ChipIntersting idea, but the two cockades?as?well?as?the?usual?spike?helmets should exclude any navy unit.A few round cloth police patches with Chinese signs can be seen on period pictures. Could it be one of them?Gilles Edited July 8, 2007 by Gilles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Posted July 8, 2007 Share Posted July 8, 2007 Sorry. I wasn't clear. I did not mean to infer that these were See Batl. troops, rather that these soldiers might have had a similar patch. Gilles, you may be on to something, but I have no knowledge of police speciality patches. I would like to know more if you have additional information.Chip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilles Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 (edited) Chip,the patches were round with completly ununderstandable Chinese signs. Some?period?pictures?were?sold?on?eBay,?I?'ll?have?a?look?if?I?happened?to?save?some?or,?as?usual,?these?are?just?memores?from?the?late?motherboard?of?my former?computer? Gilles Edited July 9, 2007 by Gilles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry8899 Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 Here's a snap of some troops in China at the turn of the century or thereabouts...anyone know what the armshields are? Are they marksman's competition awards?May be i know little bit history regarding to WHY one chinese old person in that pic, cause the germany troops has been occupied QING DAO(one of beauteful littoral city in china) in CHINA at 1871. actually from 1840,GB,france,germany,japan,Austria,italia,american and russia warring with QING EMPERY in china.CHINESE called"opium war" totally twice from 1840-1860. so it's not hard explain why you can saw a chinese in that pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leigh kitchen Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 Interesting that the Chinese are willing to face the camera. I have a few photos/postcards from that era & the people are all turned away from the lens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry8899 Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 Interesting that the Chinese are willing to face the camera. I have a few photos/postcards from that era & the people are all turned away from the lens.HEHE ,i thought that he have to , cause face to camera much better than face bayonet. ~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 I still can't figure out what soldiers in PRUSSIAN headgear are doing here...as members of the East Asian Expeditionary Force they should have had IMPERIAL eagle plates and the single cockade of Reichs troops, not the two as seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Dale Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 I still can't figure out what soldiers in PRUSSIAN headgear are doing here...as members of the East Asian Expeditionary Force they should have had IMPERIAL eagle plates and the single cockade of Reichs troops, not the two as seen.The original East Asian Expeditionary Corps of 1900 did wear state cockades, Wappen, belt buckles etc. Only from 9th Feb 1901 were new uniforms introduced with only Reichs insignia.Yes, I agree with others here the badges may look very simialr to those worn by Police units in China such as the Tsingtao Chinese Police- http://www.seitengewehr.de/Chinesische_Pol..._Kiautschou.pdfCheersChris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIR Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 ... maybe a bigger scan of the insignia make sence! ... and a little bit Photoshop! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naxos Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 (edited) Are these two wearing the patch as well? http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2009/post-1062-1239734136.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2009/post-1062-1239734154.jpgPerhaps better scans will shed some light. Edited April 14, 2009 by Naxos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chris Dale Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Thanks for the close up scans, Naxos. Now maybe those arm badges look different, it's still difficult to make them out for certain. Another curious feature, most of them seem to be wearing line eagles on their Pickelhauben, but one looks to have a Saxon Star. It's not clear enough to be certain. Saxon stars (and Bavarian, Wuerttemberg and Baden Wappen) were worn by the East Asian Infantry before Feb 1901, but by infantry from Saxon companies (or B, W and B), in which case this photo shows a group of soldiers from different units put together.Another curious feature of the original photograph is that while most of the men are wearing 1893 Dark Blue Litwekas, one is wearing a 1900 Khaki Drillichrock. This is the only time I've seen the Pickelhaube worn with a khaki uniform, interesting...CheersChris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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