Anatoly13 Posted September 25, 2007 Posted September 25, 2007 There are 2 variants of this rare order.
Christian Zulus Posted September 25, 2007 Posted September 25, 2007 Dear Anatoly,are these items really two different variants in a scientific and phaleristic meaning ?I think, that the only difference is the s/n.Best regards Christian
Anatoly13 Posted September 25, 2007 Author Posted September 25, 2007 Christian!I think this is known fact.Who create " a scientific and phaleristic meaning " ?We - Collectors !!! There are different reverses,rivets and of course number!
Bryan Posted September 25, 2007 Posted September 25, 2007 These are keepers! Thanks for sharing again!
seb16trs Posted September 25, 2007 Posted September 25, 2007 Christian!I think this is known fact.Who create " a scientific and phaleristic meaning " ?We - Collectors !!! There are different reverses,rivets and of course number!hello Anatoly. The first type doesn't seem to be mint-marked... Am I right?
Anatoly13 Posted September 25, 2007 Author Posted September 25, 2007 Hello!Yes.There are not the brand of the manufacturer.
Christian Zulus Posted September 26, 2007 Posted September 26, 2007 Christian!I think this is known fact.Who create " a scientific and phaleristic meaning " ?We - Collectors !!! There are different reverses,rivets and of course number!Dear Anatoly,you are right: The rivets are different and so it is a special variant .Mint mark & s/n. wouldn't really count in phaleristics .Phaleristics is a true & authentic sience . That field belongs to the numismatic science and you can obtain an M.A. or Ph.D. in numismatics at the University of Vienna - not many universities offer such a program ... So, we face collectors AND academics ....Best regards Christian
wlodzimierz Posted March 9, 2008 Posted March 9, 2008 Congratulation Valuk, very rare order. There is another variant, order granted to female awardees.waldemar
Bryan Posted March 10, 2008 Posted March 10, 2008 I have never seen this kind of ribbon configuration. It looks like a "mini" from that medal!
SasaYU Posted March 10, 2008 Posted March 10, 2008 Anatoly,your orders look to me as IV and V class (Order of flag of Yugoslavia with gold and with silver star) isn't that the difference ?
Anatoly13 Posted March 10, 2008 Author Posted March 10, 2008 Just different patina.This is my pair of 4 cl.
walter483 Posted April 15, 2008 Posted April 15, 2008 Just picked up at the post office - my newest addition to my collection. Yugoslav flag V. class. Stamps for silver, but no ser. number.
Gunner 1 Posted June 21, 2008 Posted June 21, 2008 The obverse of my Order of the Flag IV class numbered 542:
Gunner 1 Posted June 21, 2008 Posted June 21, 2008 (edited) The reverse (the rainbow colors are from the scanner bulb): Edited June 21, 2008 by Gunner 1
Gunner 1 Posted June 21, 2008 Posted June 21, 2008 Obverse of the Order of the Flag, V Class with IKOM hallmarks:
Gunner 1 Posted June 21, 2008 Posted June 21, 2008 A Belgian document authorizing the acceptance of the above award of the Order of the Flag V Class:
Gunner 1 Posted June 21, 2008 Posted June 21, 2008 Were both the numbered and the unnumbered varieties produced by IKOM? Which came first the numbered or the unnumbered varieties? Regards. Gunner 1
wlodzimierz Posted June 21, 2008 Posted June 21, 2008 Welcome Gunner 1 in YU section, In 20 years you will look back and say to your children: 'it was best decision in my live, to collect YU awards' Congratulation to your orders, it is hard to find documented orders. Thank you for sharing.As far I know, both types with s/n and without s/n has been made in Zagreb by IKOM. First OMDs (not this order) has been made by Mondvor, of course with s/n. After WWII yugoslavian makers ZIN/ZNB and IKOM started production of YU OMD with s/n. On the beginning you could even find award document with s/n of order written on it. With the time s/n has not been put of award/certificat document and with the time the s/n has not been struck/used on OMDs.In light of this general statement the first order would be the one with s/n.It is hard to get more information since IKOM archives has been completely destroyed . If we have luck, we could find something in other archives.Nice orders and very rare.waldemar
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