Djedj Posted October 13, 2007 Posted October 13, 2007 Bonjour,Here are a few loose portraits of Bavarian officers - not really my collecting theme, but I was attracted by their excellent tones and wonderful expressivity.Those albumin prints are mounted on CDV backs - sadly no photographer's mark or name, and as they have no medals, not much will be known about them - Still portraits of old warriors to enjoy !One thing I was intrigued about was to find out the last two officers are sporting ... earrings !(I don't know much about Bavarian uniforms btw, so if someone's got any knowledge, I'd be interested in hints)Cheers,Jerome
Schießplatzmeister Posted October 13, 2007 Posted October 13, 2007 (edited) Hello Jerome:These photographs are very interesting! I would like to start off by saying that I do not have a background in uniforms. These uniforms do look similar to period German uniforms, but I find nothing to specifically identify them as such.I am struck by the fact that these fellows look Spanish, Mexican, or South American, and not German. I have never seen a Bavarian Officer of this period sporting an earring!Do you have any other clues to their origin? Perhaps these were some of Maximillian's Officers?Best regards,"SPM" Edited October 13, 2007 by Schie?platzmeister
Yankee Posted October 13, 2007 Posted October 13, 2007 Hello Jerome:These photographs are very interesting! I would like to start off by saying that I do not have a background in uniforms. These uniforms do look similar to period German uniforms, but I find nothing to specifically identify them as such.I am struck by the fact that these fellows look Spanish, Mexican, or South American, and not German. I have never seen a Bavarian Officer of this period sporting an earring!Do you have any other clues to their origin? Perhaps these were some of Maximillian's Officers?Best regards,"SPM"Hi SPMThese Gentlemen certainly due look South American, maybe the Bavarians employed soldiers of fortune in their 1866 conflict. I think you hit the nail on the head and their part of Maximillian's officer corp dressed in European style uniform.They are fascinating fotos. Any chance could be Austrian uniforms?SincerelyYankee
nesredep Posted October 13, 2007 Posted October 13, 2007 Hello!Very intreresting photograps. RegardsNesredep
Djedj Posted October 14, 2007 Author Posted October 14, 2007 Bonjour Messieurs,Thanks for your reflections !Why but they do look a bit funky, don't they ? Schie?platzmeister along the lot came a CDV (same kind of uniform, but obviously of different manufacture - and much less character) taken in "Photographisches Atelier vom A. RUSSLER in Bamberg".Yankee I don't think these uniforms could be Austrian (at that time, apart from the J?ger and such, they'd still be wearing their trademark white uniforms).That said I agree they do indeed look rather Spanish/South American/Hungarian/Gipsy - go figure !nesredep, well here are more of the same (some of which looking more Bavarian indeed) :And that's the end of them !Cheers,Jerome
Schießplatzmeister Posted October 14, 2007 Posted October 14, 2007 Hello Jerome:Thank you for the additional photographs. The last grouping could possibly pass for Bavarians (I do not think that they are however).I did a bit of research and these uniforms do not look like the uniforms of Maximilian's Officers. I think that we can rule out my hypothesis regarding that possibility.Another thought is that perhaps they are Italian and connected to the 1859 conflict.If only one of the photos had a name on it, or an Officer was wearing an Order or medal!The mystery continues!Best regards,"SPM"
Naxos Posted October 14, 2007 Posted October 14, 2007 (edited) Very interesting photos- some of the men look like dressed up civilians Hardy Edited October 14, 2007 by Naxos
Crunchy Posted October 15, 2007 Posted October 15, 2007 The light colour of the jackets could be the light blue of the Bavarian uniform, although I agree the facial features do not appear to be Germans.
Glenn J Posted October 20, 2007 Posted October 20, 2007 Jerome,these officers ARE Bavarians from the 1860s. The first and last but one photographs are of military officials of Doctors with the equivalent rank of an Oberlieutenant. The green lanyard (Schnurgeflechte)which most are wearing is the distinction of the J?ger or Sch?tzen worn prior to August 1869. Judging by their age, these guys are probably Landwehr types.RegardsGlenn
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