Paul C Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 I have been researching this ribbon bar for a year and a half. Most of the time has been spent banging my head against the well to figure it out. The ribbon bar consists of the EK, Hindenburg w/o swords, Red Eagle, Prussian Crown, Long Service, China w/Tientsin, Centennial, Bayern Ludwig and Bayern Jubilee. The bar, front and abck is pictured below. So I was looking for a Navy officer who served in China but had Bayern roots. The officer did not do much in WWI due to most of the high order ribbons being after the Hindenburg. Also he was in before 1897 and was probable a stay at home guy on the Bayern home front because of the Ludwig and no swords on the Hindenburg. Using several different sources I found a Navy Doctor who made "Admiral" after the war, M.Ob.G.A. Josef Freymadl. He left the Navy in 1914 prior to the outbreak of the war so he is not listed in the 1914 pr 1918 Navy RL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul C Posted October 22, 2007 Author Share Posted October 22, 2007 (edited) His 1913 Navy RL entry show his RAO4, PCO3 and DA. He entered Navy service in 1883 so he would have also had the Centennial. That accounts for 4 of the 9. Edited October 22, 2007 by Paul C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul C Posted October 22, 2007 Author Share Posted October 22, 2007 The DOA 1908/09 shows the China medal - so 5 of 9 accounted for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul C Posted October 22, 2007 Author Share Posted October 22, 2007 The Navy Honor Ranklist confirm WW1 service so the Hindenburg and EK are accounted for, 7 of 9 ribbon hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul C Posted October 22, 2007 Author Share Posted October 22, 2007 (edited) The Navy doctors list show that he was a Bayern native and rear area service during the war. As a Bayern native he would have received in Bayern Prinz Ludwig in 1911, so not listed in DOA and since he had rear area service in Bayern he would have recieved the Ludwig which was the Bayern version of the war service for Bayern. So 9 of 9 hit. Also the Hindenburg w/o swords makes sense. I also checked that he did not receive any other Bayern decoration during the war. In regards to the combattant EK I can not determine when a person was given the NK or K version of the EK. The only reason I can think of is that since he was military he received the combattant version rather then the NK version. Any additional information or comments are welcome. Edited October 22, 2007 by Paul C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul C Posted October 22, 2007 Author Share Posted October 22, 2007 An Internet search of Doctor Freymadl turned up an airticle from the 1893 New York Times in regards to the good doctor and the SMS SeeAdler visiting NYC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul C Posted October 22, 2007 Author Share Posted October 22, 2007 Part 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webr55 Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 That looks very convincing. I think you've got him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Krause Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 great job Paul!!!! Congrats!!!Best regardsDaniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 Vincent Price as Dr. Freymadl. ? Hildebrand & Henriot "Deutschlands Admirale", Biblio Verlag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 Cannot read what the two bars are on his China medal because of the newsprint dots reproduction. But I very much doubt a miniaturized "Seymour Expedirtion" was readily available! (Heiko?)? Biblio Verlag-- these volumes are a MUST. There cannot be many still available, since they came out almost 20 years ago. BUY THEM before they're gone to the Rare Books dealers!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 China service confirmed, though WHERE is always a question for naval personnel. They were assigned randomly so many from each sized ship. Tinetsin was the beach head until army reinforcements could arrive. The most likely second bar would have been for the abortive Seymour Expedition, which failed to reach Peking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webr55 Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 Dr. med. in 1887 from the University of Munich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul C Posted October 22, 2007 Author Share Posted October 22, 2007 Rick, thanks for the pics a listing info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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