Jacques Posted September 10, 2005 Posted September 10, 2005 I open this thread and I hope that you'll share yours He is wearing a spanish cross in bronze with swords.
Jacques Posted September 10, 2005 Author Posted September 10, 2005 This sailor is wearing the spanish cross in bronze with no swords
Jacques Posted September 10, 2005 Author Posted September 10, 2005 This one was to the Marine Schule Weserm?nde. he was awarded the spanish cross in bronze with swords.
Guest Rick Research Posted September 10, 2005 Posted September 10, 2005 It is interesting to note that NONE of them are wearing their Spanish campaign medal ribbon!!!
David Gregory Posted September 10, 2005 Posted September 10, 2005 Are the dates of the photos known?Were they taken before the campaign ribbons were issued?
Jacques Posted September 10, 2005 Author Posted September 10, 2005 May be the KM members were not awarded the campaign medal. Panzerpionier could help us .jacques
Jacques Posted September 11, 2005 Author Posted September 11, 2005 A beautiful one, one of my prefered. I think he was awarded the spanish cross in gold. as he wear the "cruz de guerra" he must have participated to a successful action. As he wears the observer badge, I suppose he served to the AS/88.
David Gregory Posted September 11, 2005 Posted September 11, 2005 Was it common for naval flyers to receive Luftwaffe badges?
Panzerpionier Posted September 11, 2005 Posted September 11, 2005 (edited) May be the KM members were not awarded the campaign medal. Panzerpionier could help us .jacques←First of all, KM personnel that served in Spanish waters received the SK without swords. On the other hand, according to SK regulations KM personnel that served in Spanish waters and were involved in some actions received the SK with swords:-Air raid on Ibiza (29th May, 1937)-Bombardment of Almeria (31st May, 1937).-Air bombing of Palma.The mentioned KM personnel was not considered "officially" as combatants by Spanish government, and they did not receive Spanish decorations.On the other hand, some KM members actually fought in the SCW as members of Nationalist units and therefore were eligible for both SK with swords and Spanish decorations:-Technicians, instructors and military advisors. One of them (Jurgen Jensen) was killed in the sinking of the Nationalist cruiser "Baleares".-AS/88 naval personnel, mainly observers. Naval observers were better than those from land-based units for ship recognition.Hope this helpBest regards Edited September 11, 2005 by Panzerpionier
Guest Rick Research Posted September 11, 2005 Posted September 11, 2005 Ah! I always thought that any German naval personnel "with swords" got the combatant Spanish campaign medal, while the majority who received "without swords" got the non-front line Spanish campaign medal.Thanks!This helps us with German same eagles for army AND navy long service award bars, doesn't it, Jacques? Now we know that those straight winged eagles must be for ARMY personnel!
Panzerpionier Posted September 11, 2005 Posted September 11, 2005 Ah! I always thought that any German naval personnel "with swords" got the combatant Spanish campaign medal, while the majority who received "without swords" got the non-front line Spanish campaign medal.Thanks!This helps us with German same eagles for army AND navy long service award bars, doesn't it, Jacques? Now we know that those straight winged eagles must be for ARMY personnel!←Please note that I meant that KM personnel that served in Spanish waters and received either SK with or without swords were not entitled for ANY Spanish medal. Of course, some exceptions could happen, i.e. a KM ship rescueing Spanish Nationalist navy shipwrecked sailors and the like... in those cases probably the commander of the KM ship and some officers would receive the Spanish white naval cross.The KM personnel who served in Nationalist units were a different case and they received Spanish decorations.On the other hand, I have never seern a German ribbon bar with non-combatant Spanish Campaing medal (green borders).Best regards
Jacques Posted September 17, 2005 Author Posted September 17, 2005 Another interesting observer , AS/88 ?
Guest Rick Research Posted September 17, 2005 Posted September 17, 2005 Flying SPANGE ... and what appears to be the Reiterabzeichen next to his Luftwaffe observer badge!!!!!No name?
David Gregory Posted September 17, 2005 Posted September 17, 2005 Was it usual for Kriegsmarine flyers to receive Luftwaffe qualification awards and flying clasps?
Chris Boonzaier Posted September 17, 2005 Posted September 17, 2005 Was it usual for Kriegsmarine flyers to receive Luftwaffe qualification awards and flying clasps?←I had a non spanish grup to a Navy Lt attached as an Observer to a flying unit. They seem to all have been observers.he had EK2 and one, observer badge and the three clasps. The rank was "Leutnant (M)" with the M for Marine.At the end of the war he was training for Uboots and in the Bundeswehr he was in the panzer branch.
Jacques Posted September 17, 2005 Author Posted September 17, 2005 Was it usual for Kriegsmarine flyers to receive Luftwaffe qualification awards and flying clasps?←For those who served on Hydravions and boat embarqued aircrafts, I suppose . Not so many .
Jacques Posted September 17, 2005 Author Posted September 17, 2005 A new one with spanish cross in bronze.
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