"Beautiful, dementedly rare and RIGHT"

[Bob Hunter]

Those are the words Rick Research used to describe this ribbon bar. Can you see why?

[Bob Hunter]

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[Claudio]

Well Bob, ribbon bars with a ribbon of the Haus- und Verdienstorden von Herzog Peter Friedrich Ludwig (Oldenburg) and with swords are always extremely rare. The second ribbon could be a RAO with X. Maybe magic Rick already has a name?

Ciao,

Claudio

[Deruelle]

It is the second ribbon bar with ribbon of the Haus- und Verdienstorden von Herzog Peter Friedrich Ludwig of Oldenburg I see after mine. Very nice.

Christophe

[Guest Rick Research]

Yup. All just over 100 WW1 recipients of the Oldenburg House Order X are listed in Neal O'Connor's aviation volume (there were so few he just threw them ALL in), but with wartime only awards and no postwar career, can't ID Bob's guy. Waaaah!!!!

I am sure the second ribbon is a WW1 HHOX ithout the usual "and crown" device. It happens sometimes.

Christophe's bar, on the other hand, is virtually certain to be a colonial award, with most likely the Prussian Crown Order 4X too.

And lest the wicked think all they have to do is jam Xs through a Friedrich August ribbon for us to go all over ... doesn't work that way. Look at these groups-- what's on them, what the other awards are.

[Bob Hunter]

Well, Christophe, it looks like we've accounted for about 2% of the awards. Anyone else have one?

[Stogieman]

Note that Christophe's Bar has silver swords.... I'm thinking RK2wX, not RK1wX. Still pretty rare!

[Deruelle]

Hi,

Recently I have read an old Orden und Militaria Magazine (it is the Nr 89). I am particulary esthonished concerning thr Generaloberst Heye's ribbon bar. Indeed he received the Oldenburg knight cross 2nd class with X and crown of the House and Merit Order of Peter Frederick Louis before WW1; but the ribbon bar contain only swords and not crown, why ? I've just want to know if someone has ever seen one ribbon bar with crown and swords for the Oldenburg knight cross 2nd class with X and crown of the House and Merit Order of Peter Frederick Louis

Regards

Christophe

[Deruelle]

Have a look of the Generaloberst Heye's medals bar.

Christophe

[Bob Hunter]

Christophe! That medal bar is magnificent. Well done.

[Guest Rick Research]

That General Wilhelm Heye was a baaaaaaabe magnet.

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I always thought it was his cleverly grown upside down mustache, but now I see they were after his ribbon bar!

[landsknechte]

Out of curiosity, does anyone have any rough numbers for pre-WWI awards?

--Chris

[Guest Rick Research]

Neal O'Connor's Oldenburg volume gave a rather vague breakdown which by deducting WW1 awards leaves one with a complicated "all embellishments lumped together" sort of pre-WW1 figure dating back to the 19th Century unifocation wars.

For colonial campaigns, say a dozen or so Knight 2nds and perhaps 3 or 4 dozen Knights 1st with swords. That's just guessing.

[landsknechte]

Neal O'Connor's Oldenburg volume gave a rather vague breakdown which by deducting WW1 awards leaves one with a complicated "all embellishments lumped together" sort of pre-WW1 figure dating back to the 19th Century unifocation wars.

For colonial campaigns, say a dozen or so Knight 2nds and perhaps 3 or 4 dozen Knights 1st with swords. That's just guessing.

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I was thinking more pre-colonial: