Christophe Posted March 22, 2008 Author Posted March 22, 2008 Budenny wearing them, in 1916.Ch.Pic : ? Christophe ? ChR Collection
Christophe Posted March 22, 2008 Author Posted March 22, 2008 And, maybe are you thinking about this photo, I posted in the Quiz :http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=3144&st=754This is a pic dated 1946 of Colonel General Trubnikov, Deputy Commander in Chief of the Northern Army Group, wearing St George's Cross Class I to IV.As I mentioned, this is a studio photo, which does not mean they weer allowed to wear them in public.Ch.Pic : Awards of Russia 1698-1917 - Sergey Shishkov - vol 2 , page 201.
Christophe Posted March 22, 2008 Author Posted March 22, 2008 And, now, back to Wild Card's new question :Now (drum roll, please) on to question #191. An easy one, for a change.Pictured below is Hero of the Soviet Union Col. Vasiliy Yegorovich Kruchkov, who was a very successful pilot in the Great Patriotic War. However what was probably the most important event in his career took place after the war, on 3 August 1947. What was the event and how does the number four (4) play twice in it?For bonus points, let?s get exotic. What is the link between the subject of this question and Manuel S?nchez?Good Luck Gentlemen,Wild Card
Christian Zulus Posted March 22, 2008 Posted March 22, 2008 Now (drum roll, please) on to question #191. An easy one, for a change.Pictured below is Hero of the Soviet Union Col. Vasiliy Yegorovich Kruchkov, who was a very successful pilot in the Great Patriotic War. However what was probably the most important event in his career took place after the war, on 3 August 1947. What was the event and how does the number four (4) play twice in it?For bonus points, let?s get exotic. What is the link between the subject of this question and Manuel S?nchez?Good Luck Gentlemen,Wild CardDear Wild Card,could you please post the genuine writing in Russian cyrillic letters of comrade Kruchkov - or Krychkov ?Manuel S?nchez the song-writer ?Many thanks .Best regards Christian
Christian Zulus Posted March 22, 2008 Posted March 22, 2008 Dear Christophe,I didn't guess at all, that I need just one more victory for getting my (French financed ) small monument with bust in my native town Vienna, as a twice HSA (Hero of Socialist Answering) .I did some mistakes in counting the questions - we already deal with question #191 .Best regards ChristianA few stats...Quiz 2008 :* 19 questions asked,* with 291 answers,* and viewed more than 2,150 times.Nb of good answers for the Quiz 2008 :* 6 : Marc (Lapa)* 4 : Christian (Zulus)* 2 : Auke (Ferdinand), Christophe & Frank (Knarf)* 1 : Jim (JimZ) & Wild CardComplete statistics give since this Quiz has been launched (on 1 Nov. 2005) :* 190 questions asked,* with 2,436 answers,* This quiz has been viewed more than 24,720 times.* 38 Members of the Forum played, and 28 correctly answered at least 1 question :Nb of good answers :* 39 : Christian (Zulus) * 34 : Christophe* 14 : Frank (Knarf)* 13 : Jim (JimZ)* 11 : Bryan (Soviet)* 8 : Auke (Ferdinand) & Simon (Red Threat)* 6 : Belaruski, Carol I, Ed (Haynes) & Marc (Lapa)* 5 : Dan (Hauptman) & Wild Card.* 3 : Andreas (Alfred), Ivan (Piramida) & Kim (Kimj).* 2 : Chuck (in Oregon), Gerd (Becker), Jan (vatjan) & Order of Victory.* 1 : Charles (Hunyadi), Darrell, Daredevil, Dave (Navy FCO), Dudeman, Filip (Drugo), Rick (Stogieman) & Steen (Ammentorp). This is a great achievement. Thanks to all for your participation in this Quiz. Now, let's have fun with the 191st question, Wild Card's one !!!! Cheers.Ch.
Christophe Posted March 22, 2008 Author Posted March 22, 2008 Dear Christophe,I didn't guess at all, that I need just one more victory for getting my (French financed ) small monument with bust in my native town Vienna, as a twice HSA (Hero of Socialist Answering) .I did some mistakes in counting the questions - we already deal with question #191 .Best regards ChristianHi Christian,2 points worry me :1. You don't have yet 40 victories ... Maybe it won't be so long for you to get them, but as soon it is done, I go to point 2, and there is another issue :2. Which photo to use for the bust / monument ? You seems to change so often that it will take me years to adapt the sculpture to the evolution / change of your look... But, we are not in a hurry in our "Soviet" world... Time is with us... Cheeers.Ch.
Christophe Posted March 22, 2008 Author Posted March 22, 2008 Dear Wild Card,could you please post the genuine writing in Russian cyrillic letters of comrade Kruchkov - or Krychkov ?(...)ChristianHi Christian,i got the right writing in cyrillic, but even with this, I did not find anything... His bios on the web are very basic... Maybe another Member will be luckier...Cheers.Ch.
Christian Zulus Posted March 22, 2008 Posted March 22, 2008 i got the right writing in cyrillic, but even with this, I did not find anything... His bios on the web are very basic... Maybe another Member will be luckier...Dear Christophe,I also got only "zero" results with all variations of the name .I will have to research about that special date and about that (Spanish ?) song-writer ... Best regards Christian
Christian Zulus Posted March 22, 2008 Posted March 22, 2008 2. Which photo to use for the bust / monument ? You seems to change so often that it will take me years to adapt the sculpture to the evolution / change of your look... Dear Christophe,here is the "history" of my personal photographs at GMIC:Reenacting: Officer (bearing a "Partizan Star 3cl") of a YU-"Proletarian Brigade" - ca. 1944Reenacting: Soviet "Hero of Socialist Labour" - ca. 1965Real: Serving in the Austrian Armed Forces - 2008Your are free to choose .BTW: A "photoshop"-monument is also o.k. .Best regards Christian
Christophe Posted March 22, 2008 Author Posted March 22, 2008 Dear Christophe,I also got only "zero" results with all variations of the name .I will have to research about that special date and about that (Spanish ?) song-writer ... Best regards ChristianChristian,Here is the writing in cyrillic : Василий Егорович КрючковMaybe you will be better than me.... Cheers.Ch.
Wild Card Posted March 22, 2008 Posted March 22, 2008 (edited) Gentlemen,In an effort to clear up two points,1. I am sorry but although my computer has the ability to provide Cyrillic spelling, I do not have the ability to utilize it . So, in order to get the proper spelling of Col. Kruchkov?s name, below is a photo of his name as shown on a related document.2. With regard to Manuel S?nchez, no, we are not looking for the songwriter. I think that our man?s full, Manuel Laureano Rodr?guez S?nchez, name will clear up the confusion on this point. Pilot, the number four (twice), 3 August 1947...Now I know that somebody is going to get it. The race is on! Edited March 22, 2008 by Wild Card
Lapa Posted March 22, 2008 Posted March 22, 2008 Christian,Here is the writing in cyrillic : Василий Егорович КрючковMaybe you will be better than me.... Cheers.Ch.Guys,I spent a couple of hours on Russian sites, and didn't come up with much more than you did...Marc
Lapa Posted March 22, 2008 Posted March 22, 2008 ...2. With regard to Manuel S?nchez, no, we are not looking for the songwriter. I think that our man's full, Manuel Laureano Rodr?guez S?nchez, name will clear up the confusion on this point... Wild Card,Manolete, the torero??? Marc
Wild Card Posted March 22, 2008 Posted March 22, 2008 Wild Card,Manolete, the torero??? MarcMarc,Si! Muy bueno!! Wild Card
Christian Zulus Posted March 22, 2008 Posted March 22, 2008 Si! Muy bueno!! Gentlemen,following the bullfighter's track:28th of august 1947, the legendary bullfighter Manolete http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manolete was mortally wounded by a bull during a fight in Linares, Spain; he died the following day at the age of 30.But Wild Card is asking for the 3rd of august 1947 .Best regards Christian
Christian Zulus Posted March 22, 2008 Posted March 22, 2008 (edited) 3rd of august 1947: SOVIET AVIATION DAYGentlemen,on 3rd of august 1947 there had been an historical highly important Soviet Aviation Day .The new prototype jet-fighter Yak-19 <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakovlev_Yak-19" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakovlev_Yak-19</a> was first seen by the public on that day at Tushino airfield <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tushino_Airport" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tushino_Airport</a> .Also the first public display of the B-29-copy TU-4 <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-4" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-4</a> was on that Aviation Day, when 3 were flown in addition to the TU-70 airliner variant. Wiki writes: "Three aircraft flew overhead. It was assumed that these were merely the three B-29 bombers that were diverted to the USSR during World War II. Minutes later, what appeared to be a fourth B-29 aircraft appeared. Western analysts then concluded that the Soviets were capable of, and actually had, reversed engineered the B-29 because the Soviets were known to have only 3 B-29s. The appearance of an obvious Superfortress-derived Tu-70 transport over the crowd removed any doubt about the success of the reverse-engineering task."Also the Me-262-copy prototype Su-9 <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-9_(1946)" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-9_(1946)</a> and the jet-bomber prototype Tu-77 <a href="http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolew_Tu-12" target="_blank">http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolew_Tu-12</a> had been shown.The 3rd of august 1947 had been a great day for Soviet aviation .Coming back to the question:Our comrade in question was on of the pilots on the Soviet Aviation Day.The Soviets presented 4 new aircrafts.The Soviets prestented 4 B-29 copies Tu-4 and the West was shocked, because they thought, that the Soviets had only 3 (genuine) B-29 bombers.Some days later Manolete was killed by a bull.Other version of the answer:Our comrade in question flew one of the 4 Tu-4 bombers.Best regards Christian Edited March 22, 2008 by Christian Zulus
Wild Card Posted March 23, 2008 Posted March 23, 2008 (edited) Congratulations Christian Zulus, you got it! On 3 August 1947 at the Aviation Day parade which was held at the Tushino Airport in Moscow:4 new aircraft were introduced.4 ?B-29?s? which were really Tu-4 ?s made their debutYes, Col. Vasiliy Yegorovich Kruchkov was the pilot of one of the Tu-4?s. The source of this information is an interview in which he describes this event which is on a DVD titled ?Stealing The Superfortress? produced by and available through The History Channel - I highly recommend it.Finally, there is a little more to my ?Manolete? clue than has been brought forth. As we all now know, Manolete was killed the same month as the air show by a... Bull. Col. Kruchkov flew a Tu-4. The real connection is that the NATO code name for the Tu-4 is (drum roll again, please... Bull.So there it is Gentlemen. Congratulations Christian Zulus, we anxiously await your question, and that?s no... Bull.Best wishes, all, Wild Card Edited March 23, 2008 by Wild Card
Christian Zulus Posted March 23, 2008 Posted March 23, 2008 (edited) Victory #40 - 2x HSADear Wild Card,many thanks for the congratulation to my victory #40 It had been truly a very difficult question and I didn't expect to find the answer - I just wanted to collect some material for my GMIC-comrades. But getting the aviation day and following all the links, the 4 + 4 combination got visible .A nice model of the "Bull":It's great to get the 2nd HSA ("Hero of Socialist Answering") with such a tricky question .Give me half a day for finding a nice question.Best regards ChristianBTW: Christophe, it's now your turn, to present something like the usual bust here at the thread . Congratulations Christian Zulus, you got it! On 3 August 1947 at the Aviation Day parade which was held at the Tushino Airport in Moscow:4 new aircraft were introduced.4 ?B-29?s? which were really Tu-4 ?s made their debutYes, Col. Vasiliy Yegorovich Kruchkov was the pilot of one of the Tu-4?s. The source of this information is an interview in which he describes this event which is on a DVD titled ?Stealing The Superfortress? produced by and available through The History Channel - I highly recommend it.Finally, there is a little more to my ?Manolete? clue than has been brought forth. As we all now know, Manolete was killed the same month as the air show by a... Bull. Col. Kruchkov flew a Tu-4. The real connection is that the NATO code name for the Tu-4 is (drum roll again, please... Bull.So there it is Gentlemen. Congratulations Christian Zulus, we anxiously await your question, and that?s no... Bull.Best wishes, all, Wild Card Edited March 23, 2008 by Christian Zulus
Christophe Posted March 23, 2008 Author Posted March 23, 2008 Hi Christian,Congrats for your 40th victory . I got the Tushino day, but did not push as long as you did... Wild Card, Congrats also, as it was a very wise question!!!! Christian, I'm still waiting for some gold to be delivered before beginning sculpting your bust. Please, could you help in sending to me some of the orders and medals I have seen here and there ? Cheers.Ch.
Christophe Posted March 23, 2008 Author Posted March 23, 2008 And, here, new stats updated after Christian's 40th victory...A few stats...Quiz 2008 :* 20 questions asked,* with 319 answers,* and viewed more than 2,300 times.Nb of good answers for the Quiz 2008 :* 6 : Marc (Lapa)* 5 : Christian (Zulus)* 2 : Auke (Ferdinand), Christophe & Frank (Knarf)* 1 : Jim (JimZ) & Wild CardComplete statistics give since this Quiz has been launched (on 1 Nov. 2005) :* 191 questions asked,* with 2,464 answers,* This quiz has been viewed more than 24,870 times.* 38 Members of the Forum played, and 28 correctly answered at least 1 question :Nb of good answers :* 40 : Christian (Zulus) * 34 : Christophe* 14 : Frank (Knarf)* 13 : Jim (JimZ)* 11 : Bryan (Soviet)* 8 : Auke (Ferdinand) & Simon (Red Threat)* 6 : Belaruski, Carol I, Ed (Haynes) & Marc (Lapa)* 5 : Dan (Hauptman) & Wild Card.* 3 : Andreas (Alfred), Ivan (Piramida) & Kim (Kimj).* 2 : Chuck (in Oregon), Gerd (Becker), Jan (vatjan) & Order of Victory.* 1 : Charles (Hunyadi), Darrell, Daredevil, Dave (Navy FCO), Dudeman, Filip (Drugo), Rick (Stogieman) & Steen (Ammentorp). This is a great achievement. Thanks to all for your participation in this Quiz. Now, let's have fun with the 192nd question, Wild Card's one !!!! Cheers.Ch.
Lapa Posted March 23, 2008 Posted March 23, 2008 ...Now, let's have fun with the 192nd question, Wild Card's one !!!! Christophe,Hum, you meant Christian's, obviously Marc
Christophe Posted March 23, 2008 Author Posted March 23, 2008 Oooops !!!! Indeed, Christian's one!!!! Ch.
Christian Zulus Posted March 23, 2008 Posted March 23, 2008 Dear Christophe,many thanks for your congratulations to my 2nd HSA .Well, gold had been never used for these busts. They used bronze. So, you actually don't need my Lenins, OPW 1cls, Glory 1cl, HSL etc. . Some mere photoshop-work will do it ...Best regards ChristianHi Christian,Congrats for your 40th victory . I got the Tushino day, but did not push as long as you did... Wild Card, Congrats also, as it was a very wise question!!!! Christian, I'm still waiting for some gold to be delivered before beginning sculpting your bust. Please, could you help in sending to me some of the orders and medals I have seen here and there ? Cheers.Ch.
Christian Zulus Posted March 23, 2008 Posted March 23, 2008 Tupolev Tu-4 "Bull"Gentlemen,before I go on with the new question #192, I will post some material dealing with Wild Card's question.There is a very fine book about the Tu-4, which should be a "must" for all, who are interested in Soviet aviation:http://www.rollmodels.net/nbookreview/othe...r7/redstar7.phpOut of this book some pics showing the designer Tupolev & Tu-4:On board of the civil version of the "Bull", the Tu-12, which shocked - as No. 4 - the West:Best regards Christian
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