Mongolia Order of Genghis Khan

[IVB]

Hello!

I found two interesting articles in the web:

RIA "News", 10.04.2002

"Mongolia is establishing new highest state award ? "Order of Genghis Khan". This is initiative of the president of Mongolia Natsagiin Bagabandi according to right provided him by Constitution. Sketch, as well as the projects of statute and regulations of award developed by working group, and now it's in considering of the parliament of Mongolia.

New order will be the main state award of Mongolia. Unlike tradition to wear orders and medals on the left breast, "Order of Genghis Khan" will be worn on the neck ribbon. It will be annexed small badge for permanent wearing on clothes.

It is assumed, what the first orders will be manufactured and awarded at the time of 3rd May 2002 ? 840th anniversary of the birthday of Genghis Khan."

RIA "News", 18.05.2002

"Great State Khural of Mongolia on its sitting accepted decree about establishment of new highest state award - "Order of Genghis Khan". On Saturday, press service of Mongol parliament reported to RIA "News", "order is called to play important role to immortalize the name of Genghis Khan - the founder of united Mongol state".

"Order of Genghis Khan" will be manufactured from gold, silver and precious stones. It costs will compose 3.2 millions of tugriks (about $3000).

According to the decree of Mongol parliament, every recepient of this order will receive also money prize of 360 thousands of tugriks ($330)."

Any info about this?

Regards, IVB

Edited January 1, 2008 by IVB

[Ed_Haynes]

The order is covered in Battushig's book. To date, it has been awarded only twice in first class; the second and third classes have been authorised, but have neither been maunfactured nor awarded.

[IVB]

Thank you, Ed.

What about image of this order? Unfortunately I have not Battushig's book.

[Ed_Haynes]

I will ask Battushig if he minds me stealing his image and posting it here.

To me, it is a pretty ugly thing.

[IVB]

Is this "Order of Genghis Khan"?

[Ed_Haynes]

No. Doesn't even look Mongolian.

[IVB]

Sorry for offtopic, what this may be?

Regards, IVB

[IVB]

Here is photo from Chinese auction (thanks to colleague from Russian forum):

Regards, IVB

[Megan]

Do I need to add mention of this to my Mongolian section?

[Ed_Haynes]

Whatever that may be, it is not the Order of Chengis Khan, despite what it says. The phrase "fantasy-fake" comes to mind. We know many Russian collectors have deep pockets, maybe they have active imaginations as well. That isn't even the ugly "Order of Chingis Khan" created by the Mongolian Democratic Party (B 48). It is worse than that!

Megan: While three classes have been authorised, only the first has even been awarded to date (the collar and badge) and that only twice (to presidents N. Bagabandi and N. Enkhbayar); the second and third classes have, so far as I know, not even been manufactured. While it could be listed, I think not.

Without permission (and I hate doing this), I am posting Battushig's image to forestall further disinformation. I would have thought most have his book by now -- it is good immunization against epidemic outbreaks of imaginary medals -- but apparently not. See p. 44.

Edited February 18, 2008 by Ed_Haynes

[Megan]

Thanks, Ed. Where does it go in the order of precedence - then I can stick up a skeleton record and await pictures in due course...

[Ed_Haynes]

No one has a clue on the post-1992 order of precendence (and there's scant enought by way of a guide to pre-1992 precedence). I have a question outstanding in UB on just that issue right now. I know the "second edition" will be doing more in this regard.

[Megan]

Arrrrggghhhh!

I may leave it for now...

[IVB]

Ed, thank you for explanation!

Edited February 20, 2008 by IVB

[IVB]

I'm sorry that I had not post document for "order" at once. And I was inattentive to it's text. This is award of "Chinggis Khaan University".

Regards, IVB

[Ed_Haynes]

Very interesting. I have (and Battushig shows) the "school diamond" for this university, but we don't know much else and the badge you show is quite new. Will try to learn more. These are the sorts of things that should gop into the second edition of Battushig's book!

[IVB]

Here is badge described as "Genghis Khan Medal", may be lower-rank award of the same university.

[fjcp]

Very interesting....

Could you please post a better picture of the document...

I might be able to figure a few things out from the text.

Possible the reason for the award.

Thanks

JC

[IVB]

Here is better pic as possible:

[IVB]

And some more Genghis Khaan related order (from http://www.tv5.mn/tv5/index.php?page=news&nid=3260):

Ардчилагчдын дээд одон "Чингис хааны одон"

[fjcp]

Here is better pic as possible:

Thanks but this still has too much reflection from the flash....

I just can't read it sorry.

jc

[Ed_Haynes]

Any change of a scan (which would be legible)?

So many of the contemporary political parties have established things named after the great man . . .

[Vatjan]

If memory serves me well, the city of Ulaanbataar also awards an order of merit called the Order of Genghis Khan.

I'll have to check on the Monstame website.

Jan

[Sparks]

Order of Genghis Khan - look on my page.

http://AAAA.MoiFoto.ru/83523/

[Ed_Haynes]

Very interesting. Thanks, "Sparks". If we could only read the site .