Gordon Craig Posted February 26, 2008 Posted February 26, 2008 Anatoly,A very nice csed award and the case is in such great shape. The medal is marvelous. Something for the rest of us to aim for!Regards,Gordon
Bryan Posted February 27, 2008 Posted February 27, 2008 This is a very nice order that you here have. I thought the back would be a screw back. It seems I was wrong! Do you have it since a long time ago or did it just come from Belgrade? Thank you Anatoly for sharing your wonderful collection with us! Bryan
new world Posted February 27, 2008 Posted February 27, 2008 Nice!I've never seen variation with pin-back.Do we know when these were awarded?William
Anatoly13 Posted February 27, 2008 Author Posted February 27, 2008 Dear colleagues! Thanks for kind words. It is known, that it is the third type of this award. Versions: 3.1 - the screw 3.2 - pin with the lock. Also it is possible to consider as a version alteration from the screw on a pin. In this case the cut screw is obviously visible.This is 3.1 :
Anatoly13 Posted February 27, 2008 Author Posted February 27, 2008 ...Do we know when these were awarded?WilliamWe can see 6 torches on the case.
wlodzimierz Posted February 27, 2008 Posted February 27, 2008 Congratulation Anatoly,What meatl is it? silver? I can not see hallmarks.best regardswaldemar
Anatoly13 Posted February 27, 2008 Author Posted February 27, 2008 Tnx Waldemar!Hallmarks on the 3.2 only
wlodzimierz Posted February 27, 2008 Posted February 27, 2008 Thank you Anatoly,Even on the first screw-back (screw without IKOM brand) there are no hallmarks. I'm wondering if it is silver?I know that they used tombac many times.What do you think, what metal is it?There is another variation of screw-back, silver and IKOM brand on screw. I will post it later.best regardswaldemar
Anatoly13 Posted February 27, 2008 Author Posted February 27, 2008 Waldemar!3.1 - tombac without doubts.3.2 - silver with hallmarks.Patina on my 3.2 is different as on my 3.1.Different weight and look.I 'm sure 3.2 - silver.I m waiting for your another variation of screw-back, silver and IKOM brand on screw...
Anatoly13 Posted February 27, 2008 Author Posted February 27, 2008 Are hallmarks there? I cant see .Number is so big! 262 awarded only. I cant be sure abt screw on your order.May be this is latest variant but may be just changed by someone.Case is great! Seems it is early,bur order inside is latest...
wlodzimierz Posted February 27, 2008 Posted February 27, 2008 The two hallmarks are at 1030.I think, screw without IKOM Brand were made in 1945/46 by Brother Knaus (BK), after nationalisation in middle 1946 B&K was renamed to IKOM. From that time we have IKOM Brand on screw.I think that this is early variant made by IKOM.But knows it 100%?I will post other two earlier types and story about this order. I will put your order into it.Then we will have all known types and variations.best regardswaldemar
Anatoly13 Posted February 27, 2008 Author Posted February 27, 2008 I think, screw without IKOM Brand were made in 1945/46 by Brother Knaus (BK), after nationalisation in middle 1946 B&K was renamed to IKOM. From that time we have IKOM Brand on screw.I think that this is early variant made by IKOM.I agree with you.And wait your pages abt this order...
wlodzimierz Posted February 27, 2008 Posted February 27, 2008 Pages 112 - 114Current Status - Englisch will be corrected, in Statue of order is word 'PATINIRANOG' - I have no idea what could it be.Still missing: Order of National Liberation screw-back converted by ZIN-KOVNICA to pin-back (on needle 'ZIN-KOVNICA').
SasaYU Posted February 28, 2008 Posted February 28, 2008 (edited) Waldemar,"Patiniranog" means patinated - with patina on it. Edited February 28, 2008 by SasaYU
wlodzimierz Posted February 28, 2008 Posted February 28, 2008 Thank You Sasa,it is interesting that offical statue of order describes that an award use patinated metal(gold, silver,...).Have you seeen any other variations?regardswaldemar
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