EK 1914 1914 EKII mm "Y" with 1939 Spange

[buellmeister]

Gentlemen,

I'm happy to report that I have just purchased this specimen which is a rare one for me. It is a wide framed, "muffin crowned", EKII with an early 1939 Spange. The maker mark appears to be a "Y" and at one point it looks as though it had another mark which I unfortunately can't make out. I haven't tried to view the maker mark on the reverse of the Spange for I want to take my time in hopes of not breaking one of the attachment prongs. Like I mentioned before, it is the first of it's kind to adorn my medal case. Your comments are always appreciated. Sorry for the blurry pictures. I'm at the point that I may have to put my already antiquated Sony Mavica out to pasture....

Regards,

Joel

Edited April 17, 2008 by buellmeister

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"All Quiet on the Western Front" on this one... LOL!

[Paul R]

Were the spanges awarded like that(on the complete 1914 EK2 medal set)? Can you please post a closeup of the reverse of the medal ribbon. I look forward to hearing from the EK specialists.

[gregM]

Better pictures would really help but I like the cross. I am not sure

about the spange. Even with great pictures I have a tough time telling

a good one from a bad one. The spangen were awarded seperately.

The cross in ww1 the spange in ww2. However I would bet that a

replacement cross and spange could probably be orderd as a private

purchase item. I have no proof of this but it would just make sence.

I really like these combinations. Here is one of mine-------

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Paul,

No problem. What you are probably used to seeing is the spange boxed with the ribbon before it is attached to the EK. It is pushed through the suspension ring on one side then sewn together on the back. Other than the additional blue thread re-enforcing the back of the ribbon, the prongs are slightly bent due to my curiousity if it is maker marked or not. The answer is, it isn't. Most weren't as I'm told. Thank you for any additional information anyone can provide me.

Regards,

Joel

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Here are some close-ups of the Spange

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Edited April 18, 2008 by buellmeister

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Guys,

last picture I promise....

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Greg,

If you handled this piece you'd see that there isn't any question that the Spange has been attached to this Cross for a very long time. My Camera is fading fast and the lighting is terrible as well on my desk... I guess I'll have to hold off on a couple of purchases and get a new camera..

Edited April 18, 2008 by buellmeister

[joe campbell]

kind of a minefield, for sure,

but i share your enthusiasm for this set up.

having broken one of those prongs on the

reverse several years ago, please accept

my advice to leave them alone!!

i thonk you've done well!

joe

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reverse several years ago, please accept

my advice to leave them alone!!

Definately will heed your advice. Thank you Joe!

Regards,

Joel

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Gents,

After carefully and I caution very careful inspection there appears to be an "L/11" stamped on the reverse of the Spange. I have inspected the piece once more and it passes the smell test (though not a conclusive test I may add) and the Spange definately has been attached to the ribbon for a very long time. I have purchased this piece from a reliable source and I just want to know that all is well with authenticity. I have noticed the second "9" is a little different that the first. However, I have noticed that it seems to be common for period made Spanges from the firm of J.E. Hammer and possibly others as witnessed with the maker mark. All in the know please put my mind at ease.

Lastly,

The blue thread on the reverse is a re-enforcement to the black thread which is very brittle and is still holding the ribbon together.

Regards,

Joel

Edited April 23, 2008 by buellmeister