Gordon Williamson Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 At least, I'm assuming that if a doc is issued by the Kriegsmarine to a customs employee then its likely that they were in the water customs branch rather than land. Interesting in that despite being a KM document issued under D?nitz name, the ink stamp is for the Reichsfinanzministerium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 What an amazing document. This is the first KVK document to this branch of service I have seen. This must be among the rarest! Congratulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesredep Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Hello!GordonJust amazing.All the best Nesredep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Yup! There weren't exactly a lot of water frontiers NEEDING customs personnel on 1 September 1944!!!!Maybe they were pressed into action as auxiliary troops, like Police filling in as army personnel in the Balkans?Lots and lots of unanswered questions this one raises! WHERE WAS HE??????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Williamson Posted April 22, 2008 Author Share Posted April 22, 2008 Yup, there is just something about these non-military recipients that makes one want to know just what they were doing, as opposed to the "yawn" factor of finding a KVK2 doc to, for example, a soldier in a bakery company who spent his day baking loaves for the troops. Essential work maybe, but bo-ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Orchard Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 What an oddball doc. The Finance bean counters borrowing a KM KVK doc, very strange.On the subject, have you ever come across KVK or other 'military' award docs to Wasserschutzpolizei or K?sten polizei officers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sef1962 Posted April 3, 2010 Share Posted April 3, 2010 (edited) Hello found this post I am currently researching Hans Heinrich Paul Möller a WW1 vet after which he joined the customs in Bremen his service continued into WW2 and these scans are of parts of his fragebogen as he continued his career into the occupation government, as you can see he recieved KVK II klasse m. Schw. on 8.10.44 while he was Oberzollsekretar I presume this was a non combat role, so why recieve it with swords ? Thanks Mark Edited April 3, 2010 by sef1962 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Williamson Posted April 5, 2010 Author Share Posted April 5, 2010 Probably because he was a member of a uniformed organisation contributing to the war effort. The with or without Swords aspect of the KVK is nowhere near as clear cut as you would think. There are loads of examples of people you would think should get an award with swords ( an Army General as an example) getting one "without" whilst civilians got one "with". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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