seb16trs Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 (edited) I'm trying to establish a database about bulgarian docs... as the orders are not numbered, but a few early ones, I'd like to find a chronological cohesion by examinating awards booklets serial numbers.First, I use a rough classification for the docs:* type 1: large rolled diplomas which followthe royal era tradition, awarded between 1945 and 1950-1955?*Type 2: small booklet, with only one page for the entry, followed immediately on the right page by the reglemenation pages; this type is nearly identical to the 1945 soviet orders booklet.* Type 3: small booklet, but two pages for entries; the left one bears award name, the right one bears a table with ukaz number and date; color pages is orangish.*Type 4: nearly identical, but pinkish pages and bears in background the 1971 coat-of-arms.*Type 5: from 1986, a double entry page, with recipient and order names typed, we don't see booklet number on these two pages.I believe serial numbers start from zero at each new type isued, while the Soviets used a same number scale for all their booklets (with help of alphabet letters they covered 50 years from 000000 to L-000000).any comment, help or kind advice will be greatly appreciated Edited April 29, 2008 by seb16trs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christerd Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Great Idea ! Here you have some numbers to start with, maybe we can see a pattern if we get many enough? Type II 022639 28 April 1955 054593 1957 (cant see date) Type III 031064 18 Jan 1958 50803 29 Dec 1959 066892 29 Dec 1959 092548 21 May 1966 104468 15 Dec 1969 164657 16 April 1971 Type IV 000868 7 Oct 1971 005638 26 April 1982 055633 28 may 1975 034709 19 May 1978 081187 27 March 1981 You can clearly see some system in the numbers , a couple seem out of line but I suppose there always be a few that are left in storage by some reason and used "to late" Hope this helps, if you want I see if I got more books , I think I have a couple more All the best Christer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christerd Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 I see that Bolgarin have a Red banner with type III orderbook awarded 29 Dec 1959 58801 with fit perfectly in the numbers that I have 50803 , 66892 I wonder how many awards was given out 29 Dec 1959? Christer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolgarin Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 (edited) To this moment nobody knows for sure how many Red Banner orders were given during the communist period in Bulgaria. On my opinion the quantiy is in about 20 000 pieces. Edited May 6, 2008 by bolgarin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christerd Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 (edited) After a quick look on the net I found some more Order books nr, so her is a updated list small but maybe we can see some pattern in the numbers Type II 021283 28 April 1955022639 28 April 1955054593 10 June 1957 Type III 031064 18 Jan 195850803 29 Dec 195958801 29 Dec 1959066892 29 Dec 1959092548 21 May 1966101569 27 June 1969102248 23 May 1969104468 15 Dec 1969109585 21 jan 1966110994 30 Nov 1968164657 16 April 1971Type IV 000868 7 Oct 1971 005638 26 April 1982 008797 27 June 1974008861 20 Feb 1974011515 6 Oct 1972019087 7 Oct 1983034709 19 May 1978 040570 23 May 1977044034 27 April 1976047205 28 Oct 1977051719 27 April 1976053792 24 Aug 1979055633 28 may 1975 081018 15 June 1981081187 27 March 1981090233 8 Oct 1980156108 30 June 1973A-85 001537 12 Aug 1985A-85 008226 31 March 1986 As you can see the earlier Order books follow quite well in time while the later ones is more mixed... Well,I keep on collecting order books number and we will see what it looks like after a while. Christer Edited May 6, 2008 by christerd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seb16trs Posted May 6, 2008 Author Share Posted May 6, 2008 wow! well, I'm late and I need some more time to gather all datas; many thanks to everyone who pmed me and added somme infos here; I'll post all datas here.I hope this database will help us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolgarin Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 Very good work. Thank you. Im sure this information will help us in future....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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