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    Posted (edited)

    I'm trying to establish a database about bulgarian docs... as the orders are not numbered, but a few early ones, I'd like to find a chronological cohesion by examinating awards booklets serial numbers.

    First, I use a rough classification for the docs:

    * type 1: large rolled diplomas which followthe royal era tradition, awarded between 1945 and 1950-1955?

    *Type 2: small booklet, with only one page for the entry, followed immediately on the right page by the reglemenation pages; this type is nearly identical to the 1945 soviet orders booklet.

    * Type 3: small booklet, but two pages for entries; the left one bears award name, the right one bears a table with ukaz number and date; color pages is orangish.

    *Type 4: nearly identical, but pinkish pages and bears in background the 1971 coat-of-arms.

    *Type 5: from 1986, a double entry page, with recipient and order names typed, we don't see booklet number on these two pages.

    I believe serial numbers start from zero at each new type isued, while the Soviets used a same number scale for all their booklets (with help of alphabet letters they covered 50 years from 000000 to L-000000).

    any comment, help or kind advice will be greatly appreciated ;)

    Edited by seb16trs
    Posted

    Great Idea ! :jumping:

    Here you have some numbers to start with, maybe we can see a pattern if we get many enough?

    Type II 022639 28 April 1955

    054593 1957 (cant see date)

    Type III 031064 18 Jan 1958

    50803 29 Dec 1959

    066892 29 Dec 1959

    092548 21 May 1966

    104468 15 Dec 1969

    164657 16 April 1971

    Type IV 000868 7 Oct 1971

    005638 26 April 1982

    055633 28 may 1975

    034709 19 May 1978

    081187 27 March 1981

    You can clearly see some system in the numbers , a couple seem out of line but I suppose there always be a few that are left in storage by some reason and used "to late"

    Hope this helps, if you want I see if I got more books , I think I have a couple more :unsure:

    All the best

    Christer

    Posted

    I see that Bolgarin have a Red banner with type III orderbook awarded 29 Dec 1959 58801 with fit perfectly in the numbers that I have 50803 , 66892 :cheeky:

    I wonder how many awards was given out 29 Dec 1959?

    Christer

    Posted (edited)

    To this moment nobody knows for sure how many Red Banner orders were given during the communist period in Bulgaria. On my opinion the quantiy is in about 20 000 pieces.

    Edited by bolgarin
    Posted (edited)

    After a quick look on the net I found some more Order books nr, so her is a updated list

    small but maybe we can see some pattern in the numbers :cool:

    Type II

    021283 28 April 1955

    022639 28 April 1955

    054593 10 June 1957

    Type III

    031064 18 Jan 1958

    50803 29 Dec 1959

    58801 29 Dec 1959

    066892 29 Dec 1959

    092548 21 May 1966

    101569 27 June 1969

    102248 23 May 1969

    104468 15 Dec 1969

    109585 21 jan 1966

    110994 30 Nov 1968

    164657 16 April 1971

    Type IV

    000868 7 Oct 1971

    005638 26 April 1982

    008797 27 June 1974

    008861 20 Feb 1974

    011515 6 Oct 1972

    019087 7 Oct 1983

    034709 19 May 1978

    040570 23 May 1977

    044034 27 April 1976

    047205 28 Oct 1977

    051719 27 April 1976

    053792 24 Aug 1979

    055633 28 may 1975

    081018 15 June 1981

    081187 27 March 1981

    090233 8 Oct 1980

    156108 30 June 1973

    A-85 001537 12 Aug 1985

    A-85 008226 31 March 1986

    As you can see the earlier Order books follow quite well in time while the later ones is more mixed...

    Well,I keep on collecting order books number and we will see what it looks like after a while.

    Christer

    Edited by christerd
    Posted

    wow! well, I'm late and I need some more time to gather all datas; many thanks to everyone who pmed me and added somme infos here; I'll post all datas here.

    I hope this database will help us.

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