Non fighter ribbonbar

[Bayoswede]

I won this ribbon bar today, what do you think about it?

EK II NC 1870?- Preuss War Aid ( or KR O ?? ) - RA O ? - 1870 NC - LS - 1897

or is it EK II NC 1914 - War Aid - Hamburg - Ehrenkreuz f?r Witwen - LS - 1897 ???

as the seller claims ?

I just love NC ribbon bars

Christer

[Brian R]

I won this ribbon bar today, what do you think about it?

EK II NC 1870?- Preuss War Aid ( or KR O ?? ) - RA O ? - 1870 NC - LS - 1897

or is it EK II NC 1914 - War Aid - Hamburg - Ehrenkreuz f?r Witwen - LS - 1897 ???

as the seller claims ?

I just love NC ribbon bars

Christer

I don't agree with the seller that this would be a 1914 NC EK with a Widows/Next of Kin Honor Cross.

[Paul R]

I too love NC bars! They are my favorite.

Although, I do not like the way this is put together. What do the specialists think? The reverse bothers me a bit.

[Rick Research]

It's a classic wartime flat "popsicle stick" ribbon bar, but that backing has been so obviously and clumsily resewn that I suggest you examine the ribbons very carefully when it arrives to make sure it hasn't all been put together on an old backiing. That messily loosely sewn red backing is really nasty.

The most logical suggest, if all is unmessed with would be:

1) Iron Cross 2nd Class 1914 noncombatant ribbon

2) Prussian WW1 War Effort Cross

3) Hamburg Hanseatic Cross (roll exists but not dealt with yet)

4) 1870-71 War Medal for a frontline noncombatant

5) some grade of Prussian long service award (could be ANY of them)

6) 1897 Centenary Medal

With those identifications, #4 explains #s 1 and 2, and #6 as belonging to somebody almost 70 called out of retirement or a very very old Beamter.

With no other medal bar grade ribbons, this could be anything from an old ex-NCO, to a stay-at home General whose peacetime Orders had moved up to his neck.

I like the bar, but not the loose backing.

[Paul R]

I hope that turns out to be OK! I love NC bars! :cheers:

[christerd]

:cheeky:

Non Combat ribbon bar has arrived !

And it really looks and feels good, it feels OLD by age opposite to the Austrian OLD by oil or dirt treatment

I hope the Pics are good enough, its tough to get good pics with art light

You can see how the Long service ribbon has been bleached by sun during many years, the real colour is behind the 1870 medal .

Christer

[christerd]

And here is the back, there was aloose thread not belonging to the bar on the back.

And of course nothing under the UV light

All the best from Sweden

Christer

[Rick Research]

I think the "saggy" revrese backing-- which looks loose at the pin hinge end-- explains that.

Somebody with Little Monkey Fingers just could not STAND the slight overlap on the ribbons (a common effect from drying and shrinking with age) and they-- quite recently-- PUSHED the ribbons around spreading them out.

No other problems.