Ed_Haynes Posted August 7, 2008 Posted August 7, 2008 Advance apologies for stupidity and illiteracy, but what is this?
Guest Rick Research Posted August 7, 2008 Posted August 7, 2008 :Cat-Scratch: Using NON CYRILLIC Western font Issued (upper left) by 108th Independent Labor Battalion to Red Army Man (Krasnarmeits) Makary Denisovich Nun(ichi?)k, who took part in the GPW from 12.12.43 to 9.5.45 on the 1st Ukrainian Front, this is the Temporary Certificate for hisVictory Over Germany Medal.Stamped and signed by the Btn CO, Major Ural'sky.Very weird.
Ed_Haynes Posted August 7, 2008 Author Posted August 7, 2008 Thanks, Rick Meister. Even stupid me though something was odd here.
Freiwillige Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 This document bears terrible mistakes in spelling, I'M not sure of its authenticity...
Guest Rick Research Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 That's because it is using local German typeface. It's not Cyrillic.The Germans did the same thing with Iron Cross documents in occupied France 1914-18.
Freiwillige Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 That's because it is using local German typeface. It's not Cyrillic.The Germans did the same thing with Iron Cross documents in occupied France 1914-18.Thanks for an explanation, I've never seen such documents before. Only locally made docs... I'M new to this Forum but anyway please feel free to ask me if you need documents' and other artefacts' translation from Russian to English!
Lapa Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 Even stupid me though something was odd here.Actually, there is! It says at bottom left that the medal was not given Marc
Ed_Haynes Posted August 8, 2008 Author Posted August 8, 2008 (edited) Actually, there is! It says at bottom left that the medal was not given MarcOh, why? Any sense of what is going on here? Edited August 8, 2008 by Ed_Haynes
Guest Rick Research Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 Because the Temporary Certificate of entitlement authorizes him to have it, on the basis of the service shown, but the unit (probably at the bottom of the supply chain) didn't HAVE an actual medal to hand him. Given that he would have been issued a medal and the normal folded paper award booklet on the basis of this document, I didn't remark on that-- figured it was standard operating procedure for these preliminary certificates.It is not that his medal was denied.White underlined line states that this certificates authorizes award of the medal which is on the next line, then underlined in blue says that the military unit did not have a medal to issue to him.He may have been a lucky demobiolized soldier going home, and would have needed to show this to get his medal-- as so many did-- from their home RVK. OTHERWISE the insurmountable difficulties of military and civil bureaucracies might have delayed issuing medals for years. This unit was no doubt itself soon dissolved, and then where would he have gotten his entitlement from? :beer:
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