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    Posted (edited)

    (NO good place to put this, so I put it here, out of habit.)

    Lt-Colonel Timerman Konstantin Anatolevich

    A nasty computer translation:

    Timerman Konstantin Anatolevich - the commander of a motor-rifle battalion of 135th motor-shooting regiment of 19th motor-shooting division of 58th общевойсковой armies of the North Caucasian military district, the lieutenant colonel.

    Was born on October, 11th, 1977. Russian. Has left high school.

    In Armed forces since 1990th years. Has ended a military college. Served in parts of the North Caucasian military district: in a city Cool (the Kabardino-Balkarian Republic). The participant of the Chechen war.

    Since May, 25th, 2008 lieutenant colonel K.A.Timerman fulfilled duties of the commander of a battalion of peacekeeping forces in South Ossetia. Has proved as the fearless officer betrayed to the business.

    On August, 8th, 2008 at intrusion of the Georgian armed forces into a zone of responsibility of a battalion lieutenant colonel Timerman K.A. competently, with skill, has organised performance of duty on posts, investigation and management of a battalion, protection and defence of base camp according to the mandate of peacekeeping forces.

    Being guided by the mandate of peacekeeping forces, till last moment tried to force the Georgian party to observance of an armistice and a non-admission of infringement of the established borders. In the answer the Georgian party has opened fire from all kinds of arms.

    Skilfully supervising over actions of subordinates at attack reflexion on point of a disposition of a battalion, lieutenant colonel Timerman K.A. has shown courage and heroism in a course of action, has personally killed six insurgents. Despite the got wound in a foot, he has not left a battlefield, continued to supervise over actions of subordinates competently.

    As a result of the first days of fight the division of lieutenant colonel Timermana K.A. destroys 6 tanks, 4 armoured vehicles, nearby 50 persons of a manpower of the opponent.

    In the further ambassador of arrival of division of strengthening lieutenant colonel Timerman K.A. has refused hospitalisation and continued to order division.

    When barracks have burnt down, and there was no place for shelter and fight conducting, lieutenant colonel K.A.Timerman has decided that it is necessary to withdraw staff. The battalion left on foot through mountains, led by the wounded commander. Have not thrown anybody: the one who could not go, bore on itself. From 200 military men subordinated to it has lost killed 15.

    Already being in district military hospital of Rostov-on-Don, has learnt that it is presented to the high award ? to a rank of the Hero of Russia.

    The decree of the President of the Russian Federation from August, 15th, 2008 for courage and the heroism shown at execution of a soldier's duty in the North Caucasian region, to lieutenant colonel Timermanu Konstantin Anatolevichu appropriates a rank of the Hero of the Russian Federation with medal delivery ?the Gold Star?.

    It is awarded by medals.

    See: http://www.warheroes.ru/hero/hero.asp?Hero_id=9877

    Edited by Ed_Haynes
    Posted

    Major Vetchinov Denis Vasilevich

    Vetchinov Denis Vasilevich - the assistant to the commander of a regiment on educational work of 135th motor-shooting regiment of 19th motor-shooting division as 58th общевойсковой armies of the North Caucasian military district, the major.

    Was born on June, 23rd, 1976. Russian. Has left high school.

    In Armed forces since 1990th years. Has ended the Omsk higher общевойсковое command twice Krasnoznamennoe school of a name of M.V.Frunze, and then ? Kazan higher tank Krasnoznamennoe school, having received the diploma of the psychologist-teacher. Has been appointed замполитом. Served in the Shawl city (the Chechen Republic), then in a city Cool (the Kabardino-Balkarian Republic).

    Here that has been told about major D.V.Vetchinove in the office characteristic: ?In fighting conditions has proved the brave, courageous officer capable in any conditions to execute a battle-order and to make correct decisions in critical situations?.

    On August, 9th, 2008 major Vetchinov followed in structure колоны батальонной tactical group for rendering assistance to a battalion of peacekeeping forces.

    At entrance to a city of Tskhinvali (South Ossetia) the column in which the commander of 58th общевойсковой army lieutenant general A.N.Hrulev followed, the commander of a regiment A.P.Kazachenko and group of journalists was ambushed, unequal fight was fastened. Major Vetchinov, without having become puzzled, has opened from the automatic machine reciprocal fire and has personally killed three insurgents, having picked up a trophy machine gun, it continued to fire at a large forest in which there was a group of the opponent.

    At the last minute, being already wounded, bleeding profusely having noticed that from opposite flank from bushes the insurgent has aimed for shooting at the commander of army, without deliberating, major Vetchinov has rushed under heavy fire of the enemy and by the life has saved lives of the commander of army and being with a number of the commander of a regiment and journalists.

    Major Vetchinov has been mortally wounded in a head and on the way to hospital he has died...

    Major D.V.Vetchinova still had wife and the small daughter.

    On August, 15th, 2008 with military honours has been buried in a hero town Volgograd on the central Dimitrovsky cemetery on Avenue of Heroes.

    The decree of the President of the Russian Federation from August, 15th, 2008 for courage and the heroism shown at execution of a soldier's duty in the North Caucasian region, to major Vetchinovu Denis to Vasilyevich posthumously appropriates a rank of the Hero of the Russian Federation.

    It is awarded by medals ?For courage?, ?For difference in military service?.

    In capital of South Ossetia ? a city of Tskhinvali a name of the Hero wish to name one of anew restored streets.

    http://www.warheroes.ru/hero/hero.asp?Hero_id=9876

    Guest Rick Research
    Posted

    These are EXTREMELY degraded awards by all previous standards for award of the Hero title/star. By Afghan war standards, perhaps Red Stars for offficers. For enlisted men, by Afghan war standards, perhaps Valor Medals.

    Draw your own obvious conclusions.

    Posted

    I find the use of the word "insurgent" amusing...

    Sorry if this pushes thread into political realm, not the intention

    Posted

    In posting this, I was worried about possible political directions. May we all be very very careful.

    Otherwise, I hope Someone of Power will immediately delete the thread. (Not sure I can though simple editing.)

    Guest Rick Research
    Posted

    Please by all means continue to post any additional public gazetting of any similar awards. My brain--though NOT my computer--can handle the language issues so I have no way to gather such data without reading it here. :beer:

    We can all objectively judge, absent public statements of very strong personal feelings, the straightforward merits--or not--of such awards based on what we have seen of similar citations going back to the Great Patriotic War.

    Posted

    I think it is probably a fair general observation that (1) contemporary standards for gallantry awards have declined compared to what they were, say, in WWII and (2) the more political a war, the more desire to make a media "splash", the lower the standards.

    Posted

    Hello,

    It seems that Lt-Colonel Timerman Konstantin Anatolevich is on the fast track up the chain(Lt Col at 31).

    thanks,

    barry

    Posted

    Hello,

    It seems that Lt-Colonel Timerman Konstantin Anatolevich is on the fast track up the chain(Lt Col at 31).

    thanks,

    barry

    That's the thought that hit me too...The "average" for the US in promotion to O-5 (Lt Colonel/Commander) is 38...even 31 would be young for a O-4 (Major/Lt Commander).

    Wow!

    Dave

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