Soviet Order of Lenin

[Guest Darrell]

Hi guys ... I have a chance to get this Order of Lenin. I have asked for additional pictures ... maybe I will get them tonight. However, what I know is this:

1. Awarded to a woman in 1954

2. Type 6

3. Serial Numbered 269379

4. Comes with original ribbon and has slight wear

5. Comes with award booklet

* Any idea what a woman would get one for ... please don't say milking the cows

* Also for $700 would you say it's a decent deal?

Honest Opinions please. Here is the only picture I have so far ....

[Gerd Becker]

Hi Darrel,

700 is a decent price for a Type 6 Lenin with booklet. She probably got it for Labor Merit, Milking Cows is not impossible

Its in really nice condition.

best,

Gerd

Edited October 27, 2005 by Gerd Becker

[Guest Darrell]

Hi Darrel,

700 is a decent price for a Type 6 Lenin with booklet. She probably got it for Labor Merit, Milking Cows is not impossible

Its in really nice condition.

best,

Gerd

Thanks Gerd. If I get any decent booklet pics I'll let Rick do the ... errr ... Research

I'm almost convinced to get it .. but we'll see

[Guest Rick Research]

I suspect that most of these mid-'50s single entry Lenins were long service awards for 25 years in some branch of State employment.

I always wanted a definitely military one, but have always been behind the curve on partial groups I could AFFORD and the ever rising prices for these (and everything else, for that matter).

[Ed_Haynes]

What is wrong with milking cows?!

Isn't that better (and more interesting) than years of valliant desk-sitting in some military orifice office?

[Gerd Becker]

What is wrong with milking cows?!

Isn't that better (and more interesting) than years of valliant desk-sitting in some military orifice office?

Touch?

[NavyFCO]

At least with her name and the Ukaz date you can find out for certain what she got it for. It may be for something more exciting than milking cows... perhaps teaching ballet or the opera perhaps?

Dave

[Ed_Haynes]

At least with her name and the Ukaz date you can find out for certain what she got it for. It may be for something more exciting than milking cows... perhaps teaching ballet or the opera perhaps?

Dave

Aah . . . but which makes the greater contribution to Socialist Progress of the Motherland?

[NavyFCO]

Aah . . . but which makes the greater contribution to Socialist Progress of the Motherland?

I think that all depends on who you ask... I have a great photo of the teachers at one of the schools of "musical arts" in Leningrad and it's impressive to see the vast number of teachers with HSLs, Lenins and RBLs!

If I can find it, I'll post it up this afternoon.

Dave

[Guest Darrell]

Here are some more pictures guys ... any more opinions?

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[Alfred]

Hello Darrell.

looks like a really nice Lenin in good condition. So my oppinion is, if you want a Lenin with order book take

it.

The price is adequate. A few weeks ago, on German ebay was sold a Lenin with book for 577 Euro?s (~700 USD).

If you want a military Lenin in a group, it would be more expensive and there is no garantee that he got it for a heroic action, it could also be awarded for 25 years desk sittng.

regards

Andreas

[Guest Darrell]

UPDATE .... Although it was very tempting ... I bowed out getting this one as well. Another purchase I grabbed today whiped out ANY chance for a Lenin for a while.

Maybe next time there will be a documented one attributed to a more "respective" reason of award than just a long term service etc.

[Ed_Haynes]

The problem is, you never know the reason for award until you reaserch it, and doing Lenins is far less that 100% (as I have learned).

[NavyFCO]

Maybe next time there will be a documented one attributed to a more "respective" reason of award than just a long term service etc.

If you want one with more documentation, expect to pay much more for it! Now you're starting to talk of a group with photos, documents, newspapers and the like... Which gets exponentially more expensive.

Unfortunately no one has yet studied what number ranges of Lenins were awarded for what (there's a book coming out shortly that covers a lot of ranges, but not all) so you never know if a Lenin was awarded for long service as a civil employee or for something else. A friend of mine accidentally had what he thought was a "long service" Lenin from the mid 50s researched and to his surprise back came a citation for the an officer who set up "listening" (if you know what I mean!) networks in Berlin! So, you really never do know...

Dave

[HuliganRS]

I would suggest getting a Type 5 Variation 1 Lenin which will most likely get you a WWII vintage award.

There's a premium for this type but in my eyes it's well worth it!

Rusty.

[Eric Schena]

Here's my later documented Lenin. This is a McDaniel-Schmitt type 6 var. 2, No. 435120 awarded on 19 March 1974 to Anatolii Ivanovich Nikiforov. Rick Research has indicated that sometime in the 60's, this ceased to be a long service award and the numbers handed out dropped rather rapidly. If that's the case, I'd love to know for what this was awarded.

Edited November 11, 2005 by Eric Schena

[Eric Schena]

...and here's the interior of the document. The inside cover does not have a pic of the recipient, as is normal for these late awards.

[HuliganRS]

Unfortunatelly this is most likely a civilian award and it can't be researched.

It's still a nice example from the Moscow Mint.

Rusty.

[NavyFCO]

Unfortunatelly this is most likely a civilian award and it can't be researched.

Rusty - aha - it now can be researched though! It's a bit more complex than military research, but is possible.

Dave

[Alfred]

Here is an interesting data sheet for the order of Lenin