Guest Darrell Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 Hi guys ... I have a chance to get this Order of Lenin. I have asked for additional pictures ... maybe I will get them tonight. However, what I know is this:1. Awarded to a woman in 19542. Type 63. Serial Numbered 2693794. Comes with original ribbon and has slight wear5. Comes with award booklet* Any idea what a woman would get one for ... please don't say milking the cows * Also for $700 would you say it's a decent deal?Honest Opinions please. Here is the only picture I have so far .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerd Becker Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 (edited) Hi Darrel,700 is a decent price for a Type 6 Lenin with booklet. She probably got it for Labor Merit, Milking Cows is not impossible Its in really nice condition.best,Gerd Edited October 27, 2005 by Gerd Becker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Darrell Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 Hi Darrel,700 is a decent price for a Type 6 Lenin with booklet. She probably got it for Labor Merit, Milking Cows is not impossible Its in really nice condition.best,GerdThanks Gerd. If I get any decent booklet pics I'll let Rick do the ... errr ... Research I'm almost convinced to get it .. but we'll see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 I suspect that most of these mid-'50s single entry Lenins were long service awards for 25 years in some branch of State employment.I always wanted a definitely military one, but have always been behind the curve on partial groups I could AFFORD and the ever rising prices for these (and everything else, for that matter). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 What is wrong with milking cows?!Isn't that better (and more interesting) than years of valliant desk-sitting in some military orifice office? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerd Becker Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 What is wrong with milking cows?!Isn't that better (and more interesting) than years of valliant desk-sitting in some military orifice office?Touch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyFCO Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 At least with her name and the Ukaz date you can find out for certain what she got it for. It may be for something more exciting than milking cows... perhaps teaching ballet or the opera perhaps?Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 At least with her name and the Ukaz date you can find out for certain what she got it for. It may be for something more exciting than milking cows... perhaps teaching ballet or the opera perhaps?DaveAah . . . but which makes the greater contribution to Socialist Progress of the Motherland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyFCO Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 Aah . . . but which makes the greater contribution to Socialist Progress of the Motherland?I think that all depends on who you ask... I have a great photo of the teachers at one of the schools of "musical arts" in Leningrad and it's impressive to see the vast number of teachers with HSLs, Lenins and RBLs! If I can find it, I'll post it up this afternoon.Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Darrell Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 Here are some more pictures guys ... any more opinions?1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Alfred Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 Hello Darrell.looks like a really nice Lenin in good condition. So my oppinion is, if you want a Lenin with order book takeit. The price is adequate. A few weeks ago, on German ebay was sold a Lenin with book for 577 Euro?s (~700 USD).If you want a military Lenin in a group, it would be more expensive and there is no garantee that he got it for a heroic action, it could also be awarded for 25 years desk sittng.regardsAndreas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Darrell Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 UPDATE .... Although it was very tempting ... I bowed out getting this one as well. Another purchase I grabbed today whiped out ANY chance for a Lenin for a while.Maybe next time there will be a documented one attributed to a more "respective" reason of award than just a long term service etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 The problem is, you never know the reason for award until you reaserch it, and doing Lenins is far less that 100% (as I have learned). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyFCO Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 Maybe next time there will be a documented one attributed to a more "respective" reason of award than just a long term service etc.If you want one with more documentation, expect to pay much more for it! Now you're starting to talk of a group with photos, documents, newspapers and the like... Which gets exponentially more expensive.Unfortunately no one has yet studied what number ranges of Lenins were awarded for what (there's a book coming out shortly that covers a lot of ranges, but not all) so you never know if a Lenin was awarded for long service as a civil employee or for something else. A friend of mine accidentally had what he thought was a "long service" Lenin from the mid 50s researched and to his surprise back came a citation for the an officer who set up "listening" (if you know what I mean!) networks in Berlin! So, you really never do know...Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuliganRS Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 I would suggest getting a Type 5 Variation 1 Lenin which will most likely get you a WWII vintage award.There's a premium for this type but in my eyes it's well worth it!Rusty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Schena Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 (edited) Here's my later documented Lenin. This is a McDaniel-Schmitt type 6 var. 2, No. 435120 awarded on 19 March 1974 to Anatolii Ivanovich Nikiforov. Rick Research has indicated that sometime in the 60's, this ceased to be a long service award and the numbers handed out dropped rather rapidly. If that's the case, I'd love to know for what this was awarded. Edited November 11, 2005 by Eric Schena Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Schena Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 ...and here's the interior of the document. The inside cover does not have a pic of the recipient, as is normal for these late awards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuliganRS Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 Unfortunatelly this is most likely a civilian award and it can't be researched.It's still a nice example from the Moscow Mint.Rusty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyFCO Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 Unfortunatelly this is most likely a civilian award and it can't be researched.Rusty - aha - it now can be researched though! It's a bit more complex than military research, but is possible.Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 Here is an interesting data sheet for the order of Lenin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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