orden_master Posted September 8, 2008 Posted September 8, 2008 Here is one of the rarest Yugoslavian awards ever distributed !Question what is it ?Looking forward to any proposals .RegardsMilan :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Explorer Posted September 8, 2008 Posted September 8, 2008 Zlatna plaketa franjo Klu? - 176 awarded. Very rare and very beautiful. What do I get, what do I get??? Maybe award itself? Would like to buy one though...
orden_master Posted September 9, 2008 Author Posted September 9, 2008 This is the gold medal "Franjo Kluz" distributed by the VSJ - Vazduhoplovni Savez Jugoslavije (Airflight society of Jugolsavia). It was instituted in 1955 and was awarded for outstanding achivments and merits in the air sports domain. The name of the medal was changed in 1958 to "Zlatna plaketa Franjo Kluz" (breast medal).The first attribution took place in 1956 and as far as known ther were only 176 awarded until 1973. From this date there are any other attribution in the archives to be found, thus we must assume that the attributen stoped in 1972. The atributtion took place at the end of the year and the sport achivements had to be of high international meaning to be taken in consideration for . Thus at leas some national record or any international title or similar.Franjo Kluz was was in WWII the first partizan pilot.The medal was awarde in a blue box of quadratic size without any writings on the outer side, on the inside ther is a makers mark of IKOM Zagreb stamped in golden letters.As far as I know there are three items in collectors hands and one box. The law of institution prohibited any selling of the order.Best regardsMilan
Explorer Posted September 9, 2008 Posted September 9, 2008 Franjo Kluz was was in WWII the first partizan pilot....and ofcourse a national hero... What would be a fair price for this order? I would go broke if I bought one that's for sure.
orden_master Posted September 9, 2008 Author Posted September 9, 2008 3000 EUR ?? ...and ofcourse a national hero... What would be a fair price for this order? I would go broke if I bought one that's for sure.
orden_master Posted September 15, 2008 Author Posted September 15, 2008 Sorry I was very busy! Here is the reverse Hi Milan!Can you show the reverse?
sinissa Posted February 13 Posted February 13 In an attempt to revive this Yugo forum, which unfortunately seems to be slowly dying out, I thought it would be good idea to respond to some old messages and in that way update the topic again. After all, in the last 20 years or so most YU items have been widely discussed, it is difficult to find new questions that have not yet passed this forum discussion. On this issue, I am sending a reaction to a post from 2008 on the topic "Gold Medal Franjo Kluz", which states that only three such medals and one accompanying box are known on the market. Since I managed to buy this medal with the box some 5-6 years ago, I thought it might interest the members of this forum. In the hope that we will revive this forum, I greet you warmly. Here are the pictures:
BalkanCollector Posted February 13 Posted February 13 Amazing piece sinissa! Never seen a cased one before.
sinissa Posted February 13 Posted February 13 Thanks BalkanCollector! Yes, it's a very rare box - maybe even unique. Still quite well preserved. As you can expect - I am very proud of this kit 🙂
sinissa Posted February 14 Posted February 14 Thanks El Ninja! If I had to take a gamble, I would say that this is a box from the SFRY era (not FNRY). The contours of the coat of the arms on the box are unfortunatelly no longer so sharp enough, but based on the picture from the Krila magazine from 1958, it can be seen that on these first boxes the inscription on the inside of the box lid was slightly different (moved to the middle and there was no coat of arms). Article from the Krila magazine, no. 1 from 1958: By the way, for those who do not understand Slovenian, the attached article is dedicated to the awarding of the “Franjo Kluz” medal to two Slovenian pilots Branko Ivanuš and Milan Borišek for their achievements in international competitions. Ivanuš won sixth place in the 1953 motor aircraft auto rally in Switzerland, while in the 1955 competition in France he even managed to win. On the other hand, Borišek managed to win third place in the third world gliding championship in Sweden in 1950. Both pilots had already died in 1958, when they were awarded the “Franjo Kluz” medal. Ivanuš in 1955 in France while testing a French aircraft, and Borišek in 1950 during training at the aviation center in Vršac, Serbia.
El Ninja Posted February 14 Posted February 14 It is simpler than that, early medals were issued as a medal, but, due to its similarity with orders it was renamed and issued as a plaque (table medal). The medal itself was bound in the box, so that it can not be taken out. They were literally bound to the base by two pieces of copper wire and two aluminum plates.
sinissa Posted February 14 Posted February 14 Thanks for your reaction El Ninja. All info about this insignia is more than welcome, especially because there is not so much available (the best I have is Bjelos article in Dinar). It is generally known that the name of this insignia changed from "golden medal" to "golden plaque" in 1958, but nothing was mentioned about the change of the insignia (back side) design. Can you please share your information source about? it is particularly interesting information that the plaque was "bound to the base by two pieces of copper wire and two aluminum plates". Thanks in advance. Kind regards
El Ninja Posted February 14 Posted February 14 (edited) No one mentioned it officialy, but i saw it myself. If you would take my word for what it's worth. There was no change in the design, wire was simply wrapped around the catch. Some were later removed, but there are holes in the base where the wire was pulled through. The base is cardboard, with two blocks of raw cut wood to raise it in the box. Edited February 14 by El Ninja
sinissa Posted February 14 Posted February 14 There is no reason not to trust your eyes El Ninja. In any case, the design you described is hard to accept as original. Maybe it's some kind of "homemade design" or simply a failed attempt to copy this rare medal. I hope you agree that in the absence of better information, we can consider the information known so far as valid?
El Ninja Posted February 14 Posted February 14 Nope, medal in question was original and boxed. That is the way it was officially done. Sadly, i no longer have the photos. And the collector who has it does not have much of online presence. As much as it is hard to accept, sometimes, things are simply done.
sinissa Posted February 14 Posted February 14 Let’s agree we disagree El Ninja. How do you know it was original? Based on what you think that was “the way it was originally done”?
El Ninja Posted February 14 Posted February 14 I will not waste my time any longer, think what you will.
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