Sivart Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 I thought I would post this picture of these swords we have had here at my COP for some time. One is in pretty rough shape, with wire used to reenforce the handle and the blade fairly rusty. The other looks newer, but the wooden scabbard is slightly cracked. Anyhow, here they are.Sivart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest IMHF Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 (edited) I thought I would post this picture of these swords we have had here at my COP for some time. One is in pretty rough shape, with wire used to reenforce the handle and the blade fairly rusty. The other looks newer, but the wooden scabbard is slightly cracked. Anyhow, here they are.Sivart These are very old thank you for sharing them, they use these to cut them selves in the name a fallen profit. On top of the head or on the tounge with this type of sword. I have seen the shi'e Iraqis doing this in 2005.Lorenzo Edited October 3, 2008 by IMHF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Those are VERY interesting swords, ESPECIALLY the top one. Can you show us close up photographs of it (it's a "mamaluke" styled saber)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oamotme Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 The lower sword with its double point is modelled as "Zulfikar" the double bladed sword of Imam Ali and there is an Iranian Order of this name which bear two crossed "Zulfikars".Owain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivart Posted October 3, 2008 Author Share Posted October 3, 2008 Sure thing, I will take more tommorow if I can.Those are VERY interesting swords, ESPECIALLY the top one.Can you show us close up photographs of it (it's a "mamaluke" styled saber)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest IMHF Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Sure thing, I will take more tommorow if I can.I look forward to seeing them:Thank youLorenzo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter monahan Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 The top one looks to be of the type called a "tulwar" ("talwar", "talwaar") in India and was the standard arm of Indian cavalry from the Middle Ages on. The Persian name is "shamshir" and the Persian form has a narrower blade than a tulwar - which this one appears to have. Lovely pieces and many of the older examples have lovely handles and/or inscribed blades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest IMHF Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 The top one looks to be of the type called a "tulwar" ("talwar", "talwaar") in India and was the standard arm of Indian cavalry from the Middle Ages on. The Persian name is "shamshir" and the Persian form has a narrower blade than a tulwar - which this one appears to have. Lovely pieces and many of the older examples have lovely handles and/or inscribed blades.I like the top one, all over Iraq they sell swords that are old looking:Lorenzo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivart Posted October 4, 2008 Author Share Posted October 4, 2008 (edited) Here is a closeup of the handle, it looks like this used to be a nice looking weapon with the decorative nails used to secure the wooden grip Edited October 4, 2008 by Sivart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivart Posted October 4, 2008 Author Share Posted October 4, 2008 reverse of handle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivart Posted October 4, 2008 Author Share Posted October 4, 2008 Inside of handle and pommel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivart Posted October 4, 2008 Author Share Posted October 4, 2008 There are no markings on the blade that I could see, just sharpening marks and rust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivart Posted October 4, 2008 Author Share Posted October 4, 2008 The only marks on the sheath are these diagional grooves which also appear in the remaining leather surround the wooden scabbard. I was also able to remove one of the metal hangars. If you care to see closeups of it let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivart Posted October 4, 2008 Author Share Posted October 4, 2008 last picture, of the entire blade. If you want different angles or more specific areas let me know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivart Posted October 4, 2008 Author Share Posted October 4, 2008 (edited) Perhaps this thread would be better suited in the edged weapons area. If so, moderator, please move it as you see fit Edited October 4, 2008 by Sivart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest IMHF Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 (edited) Perhaps this thread would be better suited in the edged weapons area. If so, moderator, please move it as you see fitYou are right it makes it easier to find things on this awesome site...Lorenzo Edited October 5, 2008 by IMHF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 That top one could be really old!! I would love to see a specialist's take on it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 Well, it's not what i thought it was-but it's still a great old piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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