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[JBFloyd]

A Dannebrog breast star in tinsel, but my question is about the inscription on the back (next image).

[JBFloyd]

This is the inscription I cannot read. Any help would be appreciated.

[Guest Rick Research]

It looks like

"G(?)(i?) Bit(ter ? or ? ters or lters?)

Hegemann zu den

crone (Generallieut-

enant)-- 31 M(?rz?) 1865.

(?)17 (???) u. 1807."

which appears to be the old spelling GERMAN rather than Danish.

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[GRA]

Hello Jeff & Rick!

Lindencrone perhaps? There is a Hegemann-Lindencrone family.

Greetings/GRA

[Guest Rick Research]

:jumping:

:jumping:

[JBFloyd]

Many thanks for that. Most helpful.

[Great Dane]

From the Danish Court- and State Calender:

Order of Dannebrog - Grand Cross:

31. Marts 1865

Hs. Excell. Cai Ditlev v. Hegermann-Lindencrone (D.M. 13/9 48), (S.Sv.1.), (N.St.O.1.), (R.St.A.1.), Generallieutnant a la suite, Kammerherre.

which translates to something like:

31. March 1865

His Excellency Cai Ditlev v. Hegermann-Lindencrone (Dannebrog Silver Merit Cross 13/9 1848), (Swedish Order of the Sword - GC), (Norwegian Order of St. Olav - GC), (Russian Order of St. Anne - GC), Lieutenant-General a la suite, Chamberlain.

He was born on 17/5 1807 (died 1893).

/Mike

[Great Dane]

Which of course makes the text on your star:

Cai Ditlev

Hegerman Linden-

crone (generallieut-

nant) - 31. Marts 1865

-

f. 17. Maj 1807

/Mike

[JBFloyd]

Mike,

Excellent! Many thanks for the info.

[Guest Rick Research]

Just imagine-- something THAT delicate and "flimsy" is still around 143 years later-- long after HE has gone to dust!!!!

[JBFloyd]

Stevnsborg's book shows two examples of tinsel stars with the recipient's name written on the reverse. Was that standard practice?

[Great Dane]

I wouldn't call it standard, but it occurs.

The most common variety is the stars without any text at all, followed by the ones with the makers name (and address) and then the ones with notes of the recipient.

The latter was done by the recipients themselves (i.e. it wasn't official practice).

/Mike

[JBFloyd]

A new inquiry subject. This piece looks to be Masonic in origin, but... Any info would be appreciated.

[JBFloyd]

And the reverse. Engraved "OFR" in the center and "AE/E/KE/I" on the cardinal points (starting at the top).

Edited December 3, 2008 by JBFloyd

[JBFloyd]

Now I've discovered a piece similar to the one above, but with a "P" in the obverse center. The reverse center is engraved "SWB" and the arms "(crown)/F/R/O".

[Great Dane]

I agree with you that it looks masonic.

Maybe you should post it in that subforum? Cause I'm blank...

/Mike

[larsb001]

... an interesting badge. Last time it appeared on an international auction was at Andreas Thies' 29th auction where it was carefully described as "Stiftsorden des Dom- oder Kollegiatstiftes zu Krakau" and was valued at 3000 euro. It was unsold!

Through times it have appeared several times and it seems that the description originates from the 1970ies where it was listed in one of Graf Klenaus auction catalogues with an approximate description as above.

But before you get excited I can reveal that it is Danish and masonic. It's the badge of a lodge called "The Chain" and I can probably find more info if needed. You see them from time to time on fleamarkets for $ 20-40.

Regarding your tinsel Star I can add that a book was published in 2001 by Jan Ren? Westh about the Danish tinsel Stars, the different makers, types, inscriptions etc.

You can find more info on: http://www.omsd.dk/ordenshis_forlag/ordfor_forside.htm

Rgds, Lars

[JBFloyd]

I'm sure that 3000 Euros would be great, but I also suspect that the collector bought it for $10-20 in a flea market when he was posted to Copenhagen. Maybe Thies would pay 1500 to resell it (I have two versions available)!

Thanks for the information.