Is it him?! (solved: Major Otto Koenemann)

[saschaw]

I'm having this picture for some years now and recently wanted to check who it is. The reverse gives a dedication and year, 1910, and my closest rank list is 1909. It's a Hauptmann in Train-Bataillon 11 with PrRAO4, BdZL3bE, Prussian 1897 and Baden 1902 medal. The rank list lists a Major Vogel with PrRAO4, BdZL3bE and PrXXV. What do you think, might it be him?

 

 

 

Edited August 1, 2023 by saschaw

[Ed_Haynes]

Scan the dedication?

[HeikoGrusdat]

Major Vogel is 1910 listed still in Kurhessisches Train Bataillon Nr.11 - he has BZ3bmE , DA cross and RAO4 , your photo is taken in Wiesbaden (Hessen) - I think it would fit :jumping:

[HeikoGrusdat]

...in 1914 Major Vogel is commander of the Westpreussische Train-Abteilung Nr.17 in Danzig Langfuhr - still with the same awards....

[HeikoGrusdat]

????????????????hhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmm........... no Major Vogel is Major Vogel in 1908 with RAO4 and DA cross - on your 1910 photo is no DA cross, I think it is not him.....

[saschaw]

Well, the picture could be taken one or two years before the dedication, when he might not yet have the DAK. Those things do happen, I have this with others! But you're right, I was playing tricks on you. Sorry for that...

 

 

The reverse dedication is hard to read but his almost illegible name is anything but "Vogel". I tried to read while comparing to the rank list's name index and found him: Koenemann from IR 112, in 1913 Major z.D. Landwehrbezirk Marburg. Awards match and that illegible has to be that name.

 

And if there wouldn't be his name on back I would have been pretty sure it is Vogel on a slightly elderly photo yet without his XXV...

 

 

Edited August 1, 2023 by saschaw

[HeikoGrusdat]

Sascha Sascha............. ts ts ts........ if you want to play tricks go to Uri on Pro 7

Koenemann came from 4.Badisches Infanterie Regiment Prinz Wilhelm Nr.112

in 1914 he is still in Landwehrbezirk Marburg as Bezirksoffizier - now he has the 25 years cross - and he is Major z.D. now

[Naxos]

Frau Sophie

zum Gedenken an die Gast-

f... vom 7. / 8. Dezember 1910

freundschaftlich mit herzlichen W?nschen

zugeeignent

Otto Koenermann

Edited February 28, 2009 by Naxos

[saschaw]

Thanks Heiko, thanks Naxos. It has to be Koenemann as there was no Koenermann.

[David M]

Thanks Heiko, thanks Naxos. It has to be Koenemann as there was no Koenermann.

It is definately Koenemann, the 'e' are written flat, the confusion is common (I had some very strange name's in the beginning of my S?tterlin tries as well.

regards

David

[saschaw]

According to a recently published research, "our" Major z. D. Koenemann was one of only 16(!) men to receive a Prussian Royal Crown Order, 3rd class cross on the white ribbon ("KO3w") during the war... I cannot deny I would prefer to own a later picture of him!