Yugoslavia Miniatures - prototypes or moulds?

[wlodzimierz]

Gentlemen,

a friend sent me some images of objects which are somehow tight to miniatures. What are these objects: prototypes or moulds?

lp w.

[wlodzimierz]

Order of Hero of Socialist Labor:

[wlodzimierz]

Order of National Liberation:

[wlodzimierz]

Order of Brotherhood and Unity:

[Dolfek]

Look like moulds, but which size are they? I hope no one is thinking about that even miniatures, "How many repros could someone take it from there".

Regards,

Dolfek.

[wlodzimierz]

Look like moulds, but which size are they? I hope no one is thinking about that even miniatures, "How many repros could someone take it from there".

Regards,

Dolfek.

Hi Dolfek,

Interesting point.

They have the same size as miniatures. I think that these are really moulds, the question is was made by IKOM for their purposes or somebody else has made it?

Who knows.

lg. w

[wlodzimierz]

Order of the War Flag:

[wlodzimierz]

Order of Freedom

[wlodzimierz]

Order for Military Merits 1st class

[Dolfek]

It would explain why some "scarce" miniatures sold for just a few $ on Ebay. Just my thoughts

Regards,

Dolfek.

[leigh kitchen]

They look to me like unfinished die struck pieces. actual "medals" rather than moulds.

[wlodzimierz]

If you look at Order for Military Merits 1st cl. and Order of the War Flag you will find two pieces. The smaller piece is by no mean a mould. It leads me to the conclusion that maybe these are models for moulds?

Is this theory plausible?

lg w.

[leigh kitchen]

So we?re not looking at the front & back of strikings of the Order of National Liberation?

One item is showing the front & is flat on the other side, the other shows the reverse & is flat on the other side?

The Order of The War Flag & The Order for Military Merit 1st class to me look as if they are the hollow diestruck award with separate diestruck centre pieces.

To me, you attache the things together, plate them with coloured metals & enamels & you have the miniature award itself?

[Chris Boonzaier]

looks very much like unfinished die struck pieces?

[Valter]

If you look at Order for Military Merits 1st cl. and Order of the War Flag you will find two pieces. The smaller piece is by no mean a mould. It leads me to the conclusion that maybe these are models for moulds?

Is this theory plausible?

lg w.

I think this is the best explanation. The upped ones are probably "patrix" (the opposite of "matrix"), and the deeped ones are matrix (molds). The concentric circles are from some kind of sanding/grinding machine or lathe, and those won't be used if these are unfinished miniatures. Is the material hard or soft?

[Anatoly13]

And what is it?

Next step?

[leigh kitchen]

An unfinished medal which has been die struck & now needs to be finished off?

Are'nt these medals with that "ball" suspender current fake?

Assuming that it's a full sized medal.

Edited August 7, 2009 by leigh kitchen

[wlodzimierz]

Assuming that it's a full sized medal.

It is hard to draw conclusions based on that image but I think that it has size of miniatures. Maybe Anatoly can provide us more information on this object.

w

[Anatoly13]

All that I know about this item - " Trial stamp ( пробник ) of miniature type 1".

[Valter]

An unfinished medal which has been die struck & now needs to be finished off?

Are'nt these medals with that "ball" suspender current fake?

Assuming that it's a full sized medal.

Are there really fakes of bravery medals - yugoslav type?! This seems ridiculus as there are tones of original ones and those without ribbon/suspension can be found in heaps for a couple of euros a piece. Some guys saved hundreds of unfinished ones (= without ribbons) from scarp metal depot.

[panter]

Is this items for sell ? :cool: