Mongolia New additions to my Mongolian collection

[Bob]

- Medal of the State's Prize of the MPR (Marshal Choibalsan variant in original box - A6.1)

- Distinguished Herdsman of the MPR (very rare unnumbered version - J03)

- 4 orders of the red combat banner in beautiful condition (1: 2218 2:294 3: 129 4: 10)

- Medal for unselfishness (nr 188 A40.2)

- Medal of Friendship (nr 11852)

- Medal Glory of the Virgin Lands (low number: 00031; A52.1)

Will try to upload a picture in a minute.

Bob

[Ed_Haynes]

Nice nice. Await images with envy!

[Bob]

And here's the pic

[Bob]

State prize front

[Bob]

and reverse...

[Ed_Haynes]

Lovely stuff. Thanks for sharing!

[Bob]

Distinguished herdsman front + (very nice) screw

[Bob]

unnumbered reverse

[Bob]

And now for the orders... great gold plating.

[Bob]

And reverse...

[Bob]

and for the 3 other medals...

[Bob]

And reverse as well...

There... spent enough time (but mostyl $$$!) on this for today:)

[Gerd Becker]

AWESOME

Thanks for the pictures

[HuliganRS]

Nice!

Mongolia had one of the best medals/orders umong all of the communist block countries.

I consider them in the same league as:

Soviet Union

Yugoslavia

Early Romania

Rusty.

[Josef Rietveld]

Hi Bob. i bought a Distinguished Herdsmans Badge a couple of years ago just because the design and the award-criteria are very uncommon and a perfect example for the socialistic attitude towards decorations.

My type looks very different from yours (see pics). Did i buy a modern counterfeit or are there various types known.

regards

haynau

[Josef Rietveld]

Backside

haynau

[HuliganRS]

haynau,

Your's is the more common type with a S/N on reverse.

Lower S/N's tend to cost more otherwise your's is fine!

Rusty.

[Josef Rietveld]

haynau,

Your's is the more common type with a S/N on reverse.

Lower S/N's tend to cost more otherwise your's is fine!

Rusty.

@HulliganRS,

the backside of my herder-badge has the engraving "3255"

I assume this i a higher S/N

haynau

PS. I have a second one at home. i'll check it's number aswell

[HuliganRS]

haynau,

S/N's below 1,000 tend to bring a better premium.

Your's is still nice. I believe they go into 5 digit range.

Rusty.

[Bob]

haynau,

Your's is the more common type with a S/N on reverse.

Lower S/N's tend to cost more otherwise your's is fine!

Rusty.

Here, this will help:

- name of medal

- my number (- = I do not own it (yet))

- lowest number observed

- highest number observed

- etc.

Distinguished Herdsman of the MPR - 92 399 Type 1 Var 1 - Uighur script

Distinguished Herdsman of the MPR - NA NA Type 2 Var 1 - Cyrillic

Distinguished Herdsman of the MPR - 32 3,530 Type 3 Var 1 - Silver

Distinguished Herdsman of the MPR 791 56 4,100 Type 3 Var 2 - Silver plated

Distinguished Herdsman of the MPR NA NA NA Type 4 Var 1 - unnumbered (supposedly only 6 exist)

I'm building all this kind of info into 1 excel sheet (using the Scandinavian expert input - forgot his name)

[Bob]

@HulliganRS,

the backside of my herder-badge has the engraving "3255"

I assume this i a higher S/N

haynau

PS. I have a second one at home. i'll check it's number aswell

Yours looks like type 4: numbered, silver plated

I own one of these as well.

Edited December 12, 2005 by Bob

[Stogieman]

OK, so here's the thing.... it's pretty hard to find Mongolian stuff other than a few select dealers. There's one guy flogging apparently every piece ever made in that country on eBay.... (part of the mint dump, I hear).... so is the Mongolian stuff as heavily reproduced as the Soviet??

Thanks!

[Bob]

OK, so here's the thing.... it's pretty hard to find Mongolian stuff other than a few select dealers. There's one guy flogging apparently every piece ever made in that country on eBay.... (part of the mint dump, I hear).... so is the Mongolian stuff as heavily reproduced as the Soviet??

Thanks!

If it was... why take the trouble to sell so many shall we say 'rather common' and low priced medals?

I have yet to come across an item which triggered me to think it was a purposeful fake but then again there is not much literature about this topic (unlike for instance the McDaniels book). The only 'fake' I've seen was the supposed wearers copy of a Sojombo on eBay a few weeks ago.

Perhaps an equally interesting question... what if this supply of - let's assume - real items goes on and on and we were all wrong about the amount of items in circulation? Now there's a bad thought...

It's a niche market... imagine if more people start to move from for instance Soviet to Mongolian awards?

The way I see it... now is still the time to buy. I'm working hard to close the gaps in my collection... the affordable gaps that is.

[Stogieman]

Thanks Bob, appreciate the insight!

[Guest Rick Research]

FIRST the serial number/date gnomes have to work out what was awarded when-- and get some idea of total numbers of things.

Early days still in this field.