Greg Collins Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 Picked this up the other day, faded and a little worse for wear, no box or ribbon, but a nice looking award none the less. Silver plating over bronze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Collins Posted May 11, 2010 Author Share Posted May 11, 2010 A closeup of the front... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Collins Posted May 11, 2010 Author Share Posted May 11, 2010 And the back. Translation anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 As far as I'm concerned one of the top three awards of the HUPR! Given to the older stalwarts (allegedly) of Bela Kuns' armies/mobs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zsolt Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 Translation:Tanácsköztársasági Emlékérem = Soviet Republic Commemorative Medal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cimbineus Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 Hi Gents, I must admit, I do not like this medal at all. I think that besides the politics and the philosophy behind, it is extremely militant and ill in its message, elementary or even primitive in design, simplistic in finish, to tell the least. But, nevertheless, this is also an HPR medal and, I think, it is interesting for you to see two rare variants. In this picture, in the upper row you can see the two usual pieces. Below there are the two interesting variations. Regards, cimbineus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cimbineus Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 (edited) …and here is a closer look at the two variations. The first one with the mane of the designer (below the factory building, "TOTH-L" = Toth Laszlo), and the second medal made of bronze. Edited May 12, 2010 by cimbineus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 Bronze?? Why bronze? A prototype perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zsolt Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 (edited) I think it was stolen from the Mint before silver plating. Edited May 12, 2010 by Zsolt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 One has the 1969 date instead of 1959. Is it "normal" ? Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zsolt Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 (edited) Yes, awarded twice: for 50-th, and 60-th anniversary of the Hungarian Soviet Republik. With different year: 1959 and 1969 . Edited May 12, 2010 by Zsolt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 Thanks. And I understand this version is the rarest one : only 6868 were awarded to surviving members of Bela Kun's Soviet government of 1919. Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zsolt Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 Yes. ( This quantity is enough seems pretty far, but very hard to find.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cimbineus Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 (edited) I think it was stolen from the Mint before silver plating. Hi Gents, Yes, this can be one possibility, but there are some others too. For example, this medal was awarded not only as medal, but as plaque as well. Some of those were like this one, but without the ring for the ribbon, of course. It is not excluded that simply a mistake happened, and the two pieces were mixed up. Or, during the production some medals avoided the phase of silver plating and the quality control did not notice that. Perhaps, there are some other options as well, but this medal is here, anyway, as a curiosity. Regards, cimbineus Edited May 12, 2010 by cimbineus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zsolt Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 Cimbineus, I have seen from the plaque only silver plated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 I have some award booklets for these. Was there ever a "roll" published of who got these? Were there newspaper stories about the "old vets" in the media? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunyadi Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 The medal does represent a darker time of Hungarian history where politics were executed with murder and torture. As for the asthetic appeal its quite Soviet Utopian - but it goes back to the earlier experiments with the art theory of the early 1920's - a nice way to commemorate the event even though the ideal of the late 1950's would have been more of the type you see with East German medals. Its interesting to see the Toth L signatute and now I have to go and look trough my own collection of these to see if I have a variant - oh how i miss the days of just randomly buying them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cimbineus Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 ...Was there ever a "roll" published of who got these?... Most probably, no, there was not. ...Were there newspaper stories about the "old vets" in the media? Yes, there were some, but mostly politically motivated, colourful and not reliable at all stories, censored and approved by the Communist Party. cimbineus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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