JBFloyd Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 Can anyone identify this piece, or the warlord illustrated? It's gilt and enamel, 60mm, with a blank reverse. The detail shot includes the characters below the bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted June 2, 2010 Share Posted June 2, 2010 Can anyone identify this piece, or the warlord illustrated? It's gilt and enamel, 60mm, with a blank reverse. The detail shot includes the characters below the bust. Sent the pictures to a friend in Taipei. Let's see what happens. Hugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFloyd Posted June 3, 2010 Author Share Posted June 3, 2010 Hugh, Thanks for that. My go-to guy in Hong Kong is away at the moment, so any help would be greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 Sent the pictures to a friend in Taipei. Let's see what happens. Hugh Here's the input from my friend. He's not a phalerist, but has worked with me on military programs for many years. The four characters can be translated as "for the memory of Constitution Protection", see the below Wiki page for historical details: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_Protection_Movement The head seems to be that of Cai E ( or Tsai Ao ) who led the army to up-seat Yuan Shi-Kain during the movement, under Dr. Sun Yet-Sen, the founding farther of ROC. ( I don't think the head belongs to Yuan Shi-Kai since he was de-throned. It certainly does not look like that of Dr. Sun Yet-Sen. ) Even I had difficulty getting answers from the Military Museum, so I am not surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lingqi Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 Jeff, it is a nice medal indeed. The translation would be "in commemoration of Protection of Provisional Constitution of the Republic of China". From 1917 to 1922, Sun Yat-sen led against the Northern Government in Beijing. It could be one of the local warloads who were for the pretection. let me know if you would like to trade or sell this medal. Cheers, Lingqi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lingqi Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 Here's the input from my friend. He's not a phalerist, but has worked with me on military programs for many years. The four characters can be translated as "for the memory of Constitution Protection", see the below Wiki page for historical details: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_Protection_Movement The head seems to be that of Cai E ( or Tsai Ao ) who led the army to up-seat Yuan Shi-Kain during the movement, under Dr. Sun Yet-Sen, the founding farther of ROC. ( I don't think the head belongs to Yuan Shi-Kai since he was de-throned. It certainly does not look like that of Dr. Sun Yet-Sen. ) Even I had difficulty getting answers from the Military Museum, so I am not surprised. Sun Yat-sen is not bald. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFloyd Posted June 3, 2010 Author Share Posted June 3, 2010 Thanks to you both. Most helpful information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFloyd Posted June 3, 2010 Author Share Posted June 3, 2010 Sun Yat-sen is not bald. And Yuan Shih-Kai is usually depicted as a much larger individual who didn't miss many meals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 hi, guys, this is not Cai E ! his name is Tan Hao-Ming, a local warlord of Guangxi Province. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard LaTondre Posted July 1, 2010 Share Posted July 1, 2010 Can anyone identify this piece, or the warlord illustrated? It's gilt and enamel, 60mm, with a blank reverse. The detail shot includes the characters below the bust. Jeff: Didn't I already ID that medal? Cao Kun Protector of the Constitution medal? Dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFloyd Posted July 1, 2010 Author Share Posted July 1, 2010 Jeff: Didn't I already ID that medal? Cao Kun Protector of the Constitution medal? Dick Different site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 (edited) first, attached the photo of warlord Tan Hao-Min. second, the four chinese words on the medal 护法纪念, translation word by word is: protect-护, law-法, commemorative-纪念. the intact translation of the four chinese words is: commemorative of the law-protecting movement. third,the law-protecting movement, was to protect the constitution of the republic of china(1911), against the prisident Yaun Shi-Kai who attempted to be the emperor. this movement was launched by the warlords of the southwest part of china(Yun-Nan province and Guang-Si province). so it had no relationship with the warlords of the north part of china. and Cao Kun was an important member of the group of Bei-Yang system, it means he belonged to the north part of china, and he can not be the person on this medal. Edited July 2, 2010 by adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 second, the four chinese words on the medal 护法纪念, translation word by word is: protect-护, law-法, commemorative-纪念. the intact translation of the four chinese words is: commemorative of the law-protecting movement. Indeed Adam! third,the law-protecting movement, was to protect the constitution of the republic of china(1911), against the prisident Yaun Shi-Kai who attempted to be the emperor. this movement was launched by the warlords of the southwest part of china(Yun-Nan province and Guang-Si province). so it had no relationship with the warlords of the north part of china. and Cao Kun was an important member of the group of Bei-Yang system, it means he belonged to the north part of china, and he can not be the person on this medal. Completely agree! this is not Cai E ! his name is Tan Hao-Ming, a local warlord of Guangxi Province. Well, I am not so sure that it is Tan Hao-Ming... It could be Chen Jiongming (a.k.a. Chen Chiung-ming, a.k.a. Chén Jiǒngmíng) commander-in-chief of the Guangdong Army, who was instrumental in backing Sun Yat-sen`s Constitutional Protection Movement For more info go http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chen_Jiongming. I think this one could be our man... Let`s check his photo`s! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Photo better quality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 I know I know Too much hair... Check this one ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 The most interesting thing is that this decoration had several classes. Take a look at the lower one. Cheers, Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No one Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Dear Gentlemen, Interesting medal. There are two meanings for "護法", "Guardian of the Dharma" or "Guardian of the Constitution". It was also the name of a famous Buddhist scholar: Dharmapala of Nalanda - Wikipedia Here is the link for the " 護法運動" Constitutional Protection Movement - Wikipedia Yours sincerely, No one 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No one Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Dear Gentlemen, The man is the governor of Guǎngxī, Lù Róngtíng (his title "dūdū" "military governor and civil administrator"). Wikipedia : Lu Rongting - Wikipedia Quote: "Sun Yat-sen initiated the Constitutional Protection Movement in 1917, and Lu played an important role. Under the military reorganization in 1918, Tang Jihao and Lu were appointed joint chiefs. This organization was instrumental in establishing peace between the Beijing government (under the Zhili Clique) and the Constitutional Protection Movement armies." Yours sincerely, No one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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