Order of the Precious Tripod

[Irish]

I have this medal in my collection, I am not a medal collector but have acuumulated a number over the years. What era is this medal from? As you can see it has the number 2 on the reverse. this is also my first official post, hope it goes well.

[Irish]

For some context, the Tripod came with these orders. The breast star is numbered 73

[Hugh]

At first glance, they appear to be some lovely pieces. I suspect you may get an offer or two from one of us.

Hugh

[Irish]

At first glance, they appear to be some lovely pieces. I suspect you may get an offer or two from one of us.

Hugh

Thanks for looking Hugh, Well I am not married to them, always interested in options.

[alex82]

Very nice medals! and hard to find these times! thanks for sharing!

a l e x

[alex82]

Does anyone know the class of the Tripod? I go for fifth or sixth class (neck mounted but only one star on the medal)...

[hc8604]

Alex, much more higher, 3rd class (三等). The only ones that carried one star are the 3rd, 6th, and 9th class.

[alex82]

Alex, much more higher, 3rd class (三等). The only ones that carried one star are the 3rd, 6th, and 9th class.

Thanks for the correction, I knew that 3rd and 6th class have only one star, that's what puzzled me. But I thought that the 3rd class (三等) medal is a single Breast Star (whit one red star). I took my information from the Gongqing Li's Book «Chinese Orders 1862-1955». I guess medal collecting is a constant process of learning.

cheers

a l e x

[paul wood]

Thanks for the correction, I knew that 3rd and 6th class have only one star, that's what puzzled me. But I thought that the 3rd class (三等) medal is a single Breast Star (whit one red star). I took my information from the Gongqing Li's Book «Chinese Orders 1862-1955». I guess medal collecting is a constant process of learning.

cheers

a l e x

It is a 6th Class, very early C. 1930. The 3rd class is a star see ANS Part 3 Morton and Eden 26 April 2007 which illustrates all 9 classes.

Paul

[alex82]

Thank you Paul for the saving post, I was beginning to question my opinion an starting to correct my notes about this medal. :D

[Irish]

Thanks to everyone for their input, not being a medal collector your expertise is much appreciated. Best John

[hc8604]

It is a 6th Class, very early C. 1930. The 3rd class is a star see ANS Part 3 Morton and Eden 26 April 2007 which illustrates all 9 classes.

Paul

Am I missing something here...?

The colors correspond to the third class. There is a third class stamp on the reverse. I don't get it.

6th class has all white enamel on the one of layers. The third class has white, red, white enamel on the layer. I don't know which classes has neck, breast, or sash awards. Unless it is a horrible mistake then I am confused.

Do you have the images, I don't know what ANS means. oh I see, I remember the names Morton, Eden from somewhere and it was the auctioneers, but I couldn't get the images to show for the Apr. 26th auction.

Edited November 22, 2010 by hc8604

[alex82]

wow, this looks like a good opportunity to learn a lot! hc8604, which one of the 3 stamps tells you that it is 3th class? My Chinese is very very basic and specially by this old characters I have no chance to identify anything.

Where do you see the number 3 (三) in the characters? second character of number 1??

2 is the general Precious Tripon stamp, right?

best regards

[paul wood]

wow, this looks like a good opportunity to learn a lot! hc8604, which one of the 3 stamps tells you that it is 3th class? My Chinese is very very basic and specially by this old characters I have no chance to identify anything.

Where do you see the number 3 (三) in the characters? second character of number 1??

2 is the general Precious Tripon stamp, right?

best regards

This is quite odd. The colours are correct for third class. The 3rd Class star in ANS was numbered 411. I can only assume the ANS Star was part of a set comprising a neck badge and a breast star and the neck badge went AWOL. Can anyone confirm this.

Paul

[hc8604]

Hi Alex,

1. 三等 (san deng) means third level or class.

2. Name of the medal, but in the old fancy style Chinese (which is not easy to read sometimes).

3. I think maybe the manufacturer stamp? I have the same stamp on my Cloud and Banner order.

[alex82]

Interesting! I never saw 三 where all three lines have the same length, I learned that the one in the middle is always shorter than the two others. Must be old style as well.

Thank you very much

a l e x

[hc8604]

It depends on the fonts... I am not sure if there was a correct way to write it. It like the "a" some people write it like "a" or with a cirle and a little curve on the right side or a like a "t" with a simple cross, or with a curve at the end. I know there a few examples in Chinese where there are some minor differences in characters (not comparing traditional vs. simplfied)

Edited November 23, 2010 by hc8604

[Lingqi]

No.2

WOW!

[claretbaron]

oh , see this picture again. it is nice.

[Irish]

Thanks to everyone for your help and nice comments on these medals. Best John

[Richard LaTondre]

For some context, the Tripod came with these orders. The breast star is numbered 73

That is really impressive. I will see if I can track that number down for you.

Richard

[Irish]

Thank You Richard, that would be wonderful. Best John