FrontlineAntiques Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Afternoon chaps and chapettes The postman managed to brave the deep snow and sub-zero temperaturs this morning, and behold the treasures he brought! This little lot all came from one guy who's father had collected it over about 40 years. Some nice little peices - im not sure about all of it but over all im more than chuffed! Feast your eyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrontlineAntiques Posted December 3, 2010 Author Share Posted December 3, 2010 There are a few pieces that I dont recognise - can anyone help? Now, the first one... Possbly a membership badge of some kind, or a cap cockade for a political officer? Maker marked to the rear, RZM M1/34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauptmann Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Yup... that last one is a cap cockade for an NSDAP peaked cap. Had one myself for a long time. Nice new additions! Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrontlineAntiques Posted December 3, 2010 Author Share Posted December 3, 2010 Thanks Dan! Next up is a polish badge. Have definately seen this before but cant bring to mind what it is.... Pin is missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrontlineAntiques Posted December 3, 2010 Author Share Posted December 3, 2010 an Irish (?) badge/sleeve badge/ buckle of some sort. Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrontlineAntiques Posted December 3, 2010 Author Share Posted December 3, 2010 Last of the "Unknowns" Possibly Kreigsmarine, maybe Soviet...I just dont know. It appears that something is missing from the top (de-nazified??) Your guesses welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauptmann Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 (edited) Actually the one in 4 is Greek... 99.9% certain. Not sure for what though. But those are definitely Greek letters. You might try posting in that section: http://gmic.co.uk/in...p?showforum=195 Bet someone there can ID it for you. Keep us posted. Dan Edited December 4, 2010 by Hauptman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrontlineAntiques Posted December 3, 2010 Author Share Posted December 3, 2010 The German pieces Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrontlineAntiques Posted December 3, 2010 Author Share Posted December 3, 2010 The EK2 is marked "93" on the ring for Richard Simm und Sohne, Gablonz, a maker ive not come across before The Air Gunner's Badge is a Deumer, but has an awful repair to it. will post later in relevant section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Johnson Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Thanks Dan! Next up is a polish badge. Have definately seen this before but cant bring to mind what it is.... Pin is missing. Greek urban police, pre-1984. http://www.astinomia.gr/index.php?option=ozo_content&perform=view&id=34&Itemid=13&lang=EN What's the naming on the Victory Medal (which has a British War Medal ribbon)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrontlineAntiques Posted December 3, 2010 Author Share Posted December 3, 2010 What's the naming on the Victory Medal (which has a British War Medal ribbon)? 36566 CPL J DONNELLY LEIC R Not a casualty as far as i can see. Havent had chance to search for his MIC as yet Have plenty of wwi ribbon so will switch that out later Thanks Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev in Deva Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 an Irish (?) badge/sleeve badge/ buckle of some sort. Any ideas? Nice Finds Its for sure Irish Military related as the emblem is the standard sunburst insignia that's used on our cap-badge, the design dates back to the War of Independence period. Off the top of my head it might have a connection to a military band. Will do some checking. Kevin in Deva. :beer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrontlineAntiques Posted December 3, 2010 Author Share Posted December 3, 2010 Its for sure Irish Military related as the emblem is the standard sunburst insignia that's used on our cap-badge, the design dates back to the War of Independence period. Hi Kev I knew it was Irish... im sure i have seen one on here in the last year. Any idea what the writing says? Or what the double F stands for? Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev in Deva Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Hi Kev I knew it was Irish... im sure i have seen one on here in the last year. Any idea what the writing says? Or what the double F stands for? Dan As an ex-Irish soldier with over 21 years service of course I know The badge was designed in 1913 by Eoin MacNeill, a founding member and chairman of the Irish Volunteers. Variations existed for territorial commands, but, the majority of volunteers wore the "Óglaigh na hÉireann" badge. It was worn by Republicans in the 1916 Easter Rising. It was rarely worn by the Irish Republican Army in the War of Independence as doing so could lead to a prison term. Eventually the Free State Army adopted the badge for their new uniforms before the Irish Civil War. "...As a component of rank insignia and which is specified in the Third Schedule as the form of the cap badge, shall be comprised of a sunburst - An Gal Gréine, surmounted by an 8-pointed star, a point of the star being uppermost, bearing the letters "FF" (in Gaelic characters) encircled by a representation of an ancient warrior's sword belt on which the words "Óglaigh na hÉireann" are inscribed." The Motto, Óglaigh na hÉireann translates to "Soldiers of Ireland." "F.F." stands for Fianna Fail the first word is an ancient Gaelic term for an Army, the second word equates to Destiny. Also with regards your item I found this online:- described as An Irish Volunteer Belt but not specifically dated to a period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrontlineAntiques Posted December 3, 2010 Author Share Posted December 3, 2010 As an ex-Irish soldier with over 21 years service of course I know Bloody hell, your quick! Thanks for your help Kev. I was thinking of moving this on as its not really in my feild of collecting. Any idea as to its worth? Thanks Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev in Deva Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Your welcome for the help Dan, if its relates to the early days of the Irish Army, say immediate post 1920 War of Independence, Civil War, then it might be classed as a scarce object. If it can be dated to use during the War of Independence then I would say it could be classed as rare, even missing the two lugs and leather belt. We have an Irish section on here located at:- http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showforum=119 and it might be worth posting a thread there, I am sure there are a couple of members with more knowledge than little old me out here in Transylvania. Push comes to shove bung it on Evil Bay and ask 250+ U.K. quid Kevin in Deva. :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 If thats' a 1920s Fianna belt- well, score! :jumping: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev in Deva Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 As a matter of interest could you also post a picture of the medal with the bridge on it? Its NOT Irish related, but looks interesting. Kevin in Deva. :beer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Japanese- China incident medal-right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev in Deva Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Cant tell as the resolution is to small. Kevin in Deva, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrontlineAntiques Posted December 3, 2010 Author Share Posted December 3, 2010 As a matter of interest could you also post a picture of the medal with the bridge on it? Its NOT Irish related, but looks interesting. Kev, just for you! Its a Japanese 2,600th Imperial Anniversary Medal from 1940 What this guys collecting aims were is anyones guess!! Dan :beer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev in Deva Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Thanks Dan, a very nice looking medal, first one I have seen, was it issued to the entire serving Japanese military force in 1940, if so that must have put a hole in the War Budget A big ribbon ring as well in comparison to the size of the medal. Kevin in Deva. :beer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrontlineAntiques Posted December 3, 2010 Author Share Posted December 3, 2010 The medal was awarded to commemorate the 2600th anniversary of Emperor Jimmu establishing the Japanese Empire, a semi-mythological event said to have taken place in 660BC. This event was used in Japan as one basis for calculating dates instead of the BC/AD (or BCE/CE) system used in the West. The 2600th anniversary was in 1940 (2600-660=1940). Im not sure what the awarding criteria was, but thre is a good chance it went out to the entire standing forces.... thats a fair old bit of bronze! Heres a pic of what it should look like - the eight lines on the medal ribbon are an allusion to the eight corners of the world that were supposed to be united under the Emperor’s benevolent rule. The slogan was hak-ko-ichi-u, “eight corners of the world under one roof”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Johnson Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 36566 CPL J DONNELLY LEIC R Not a casualty as far as i can see. Havent had chance to search for his MIC as yet Have plenty of wwi ribbon so will switch that out later Thanks Dan Entitled to a pair, doesn't seem to be any service or pension papers on Ancestry. Looing at 26 casualties in the block 36500-36599 lots of 9th Bn., but 6, 7, 8th as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrontlineAntiques Posted December 3, 2010 Author Share Posted December 3, 2010 (edited) Entitled to a pair, doesn't seem to be any service or pension papers on Ancestry. Looing at 26 casualties in the block 36500-36599 lots of 9th Bn., but 6, 7, 8th as well. Cheers Mike Whenever I get a lone WWI medal i always feel a little sad for its missing group. Ah well... :blush: Edited December 3, 2010 by FrontlineAntiques Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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