Daniel Murphy Posted June 4, 2006 Posted June 4, 2006 The back. The belt strap was supposed to be slipped through the loop underneath to form the belt loop. This one was never worn that way.
Daniel Murphy Posted June 4, 2006 Posted June 4, 2006 As you unbutton the top strap, you have the makers mark on the inside....
Daniel Murphy Posted June 4, 2006 Posted June 4, 2006 (edited) ....and another set of flaps. Notice the buttonholes were done with red ochre thread. Edited June 4, 2006 by Daniel Murphy
Daniel Murphy Posted June 4, 2006 Posted June 4, 2006 (edited) Which open to reveal the filter. Notice that this one was carried out of the can which accounts for the paint chips and dings. Edited June 4, 2006 by Daniel Murphy
Daniel Murphy Posted June 4, 2006 Posted June 4, 2006 (edited) And the bottom seal. This is a different type without the wax paper. C'mon, you don't think I would cheat and show the same filter twice do you? Edited June 4, 2006 by Daniel Murphy
Chip Posted June 4, 2006 Posted June 4, 2006 Daniel,I have taken the terminology from Kraus' books. Years ago, when I did my first article on the subject, little was known about the correct terminology or the chronology of use of the various pieces of German anti-gas equipment. Reenactors at the time were calling the bag a Saccule, which just did not sound right to me, so I never used the term in my writings. Kraus did his homework and came up with the actual official names used during the period. Given that new information, I went back to the posting on the "Before 1919.." website and updated my information.These pieces are shown in Johan Somer's new book, "Imperial German Field Uniforms and Equipment 1907-1918". I have also seen this Stofftasche f?r Atemeinsatz 1917 in the aforementioned ligher weight, red canvas material.Chip
Hun Helmet Posted July 5, 2006 Posted July 5, 2006 hey Guys! I was looking at the straps on my gas mask. I don't have any others to compare to but it looks like an incomplete repair was done. When i put it on tonight the strap in the front does not go back all the way to connect with the other straps. Take a look and what can anyone report? Mike
Chip Posted August 12, 2006 Posted August 12, 2006 Mike,Obviously, that strap should be attached. Is it repairable?Chip
Hun Helmet Posted August 12, 2006 Posted August 12, 2006 Well yes but I will need to add something to it so it will fit. I can just sew it on but I don't have any period materials. I got the mask from Great War militaria. Think I paid a bit too much for it considering. Mike
Chris Boonzaier Posted January 17, 2007 Author Posted January 17, 2007 What are the cahnces that a Belgian collector/seller does not know the difference between a belgian and german mask?http://cgi.ebay.com/ww1-complet-GERMAN-gas...1QQcmdZViewItemI guess the "triple your money" hook must have got him...
Chris Boonzaier Posted January 22, 2007 Author Posted January 22, 2007 Funny how you see dust for the first time with the aid of a flash...
Chris Boonzaier Posted January 22, 2007 Author Posted January 22, 2007 Seldom still found in the tins...
Chip Posted January 23, 2007 Posted January 23, 2007 Chris,I think once you get over five of these it is considered an official mania. Chip
Chris Boonzaier Posted January 23, 2007 Author Posted January 23, 2007 Chris,I think once you get over five of these it is considered an official mania. ChipNaaahhh.... you can have 15 if you want and it still wont officially be mania unless you keep em in the bedroom.
Chip Posted January 24, 2007 Posted January 24, 2007 Chris,Those don't look like living room displays to me! Chip
Justinkase Posted January 27, 2007 Posted January 27, 2007 Not fair Chris, I still have none!!! But sooner or later will fill the gap Nice masks!Hello Theodor,I found this nice gas mask on the Screamn Eagle website. Thought maybe you would be interested in it. Here is the page...http://www.screamneagle.com/gwwi7.htmlBest Wishes,Justinkase
Chris Boonzaier Posted February 7, 2007 Author Posted February 7, 2007 http://cgi.ebay.com/WWI-German-LARS-gasmas...1QQcmdZViewItemOnce again, like on the preious page, a Belgian Militaria dealer selling a Belgian mask as german....
Chris Boonzaier Posted March 21, 2007 Author Posted March 21, 2007 What would you guys say a cloth mask should cost compared to a leather one...and secondly, how many leather ones do you see for each cloth one?BestChris
Chip Posted March 21, 2007 Posted March 21, 2007 Chris,The early rigs bring more, but that just may be because the Italians buy them as examples of what the Austrians normally wore. It is hard to judge how much more the Gummimaske are worth. If you go by prices on E-bay, I think you get somewhat of a skewed view. But generally speaking, I would say that the difference would be about $75.00-$100.00 if the two were similarly complete sets in comparable condition. Regarding scarcity, I think I would see about ten or more leather masks for every Gummimaske. Of course, that is here in the U.S. and that is most likely effected by the fact that by the time our troops began souveniring masks (1918 basically), the Gummimaske were about gone from the field. Chip
Kenneth Whitcomb Posted March 22, 2007 Posted March 22, 2007 Chris,The early rigs bring more, but that just may be because the Italians buy them as examples of what the Austrians normally wore. It is hard to judge how much more the Gummimaske are worth. If you go by prices on E-bay, I think you get somewhat of a skewed view. But generally speaking, I would say that the difference would be about $75.00-$100.00 if the two were similarly complete sets in comparable condition. Regarding scarcity, I think I would see about ten or more leather masks for every Gummimaske. Of course, that is here in the U.S. and that is most likely effected by the fact that by the time our troops began souveniring masks (1918 basically), the Gummimaske were about gone from the field. Chip
Chris Boonzaier Posted April 22, 2008 Author Posted April 22, 2008 I also think the leather ones stay supple and seldom fall to pieces.Gummi masks, whether British, German, US or French seem not to stand the test of time... just bought 2 French ones that are torn and crumbling to pieces :-(In 20 years a Gummi mask will seem like the ultimate rarity.
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