Stogieman Posted April 6, 2005 Share Posted April 6, 2005 Greetings All! I shall not be bashfull, Let's talk about what I like! Imperial Aviation of Germany & his Allies. A veritable minefield of fakes, trickery and false hopes. Why if Germany had as many Pilots as there are currently "wearer's copies" of PLM's floating around the internet, I think we'd all be speaking German right now! cheeky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted April 6, 2005 Author Share Posted April 6, 2005 Pilot Badges! One real one for every 3-400 fakes floating around out there. There's two distinct styles from Germany. Prussian & Bavarian. Of the two styles, there's two types. Issue & Private Purchase.Here's what the typical Prussian issued badge looks like. Stamped tin, plated with silver. These were unceremoniously handed out in a plain brown envelope. A little wider than the WW2 style packets many of us are familiar with. The packet held no title, no maker mark, nothing. Most were instantly tossed in the rubbish bin.Contrary to popular belief, they were not handed out upon completion of flight school! They were awarded after completion of a prescribed number of missions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted April 6, 2005 Author Share Posted April 6, 2005 Here's the typical Bavarian issued badge. Again, stamped and silvered tin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Baker Posted April 6, 2005 Share Posted April 6, 2005 Rick,I like these. Could we also see the reverses??Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted May 10, 2005 Author Share Posted May 10, 2005 Hi Jim, will dig out photos and post reverses as soon as I figure out my foto-attachment woes. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted May 10, 2005 Author Share Posted May 10, 2005 Another one and my absolute favorite based purely on rarity! The Prussian Air Gunner Badge, as issued in 1918 (only!). Three-piece, stamped tin, silvered but actually maker marked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted May 21, 2005 Author Share Posted May 21, 2005 Time to revisit this. let's see if we can add some bigger photos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted May 21, 2005 Author Share Posted May 21, 2005 OK! Previous one was a Private-Purchase Badge, most certainly by Juncker. Here's a nice scan of the issue badge, as distributed in 1918 only! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted May 21, 2005 Author Share Posted May 21, 2005 And the reverse... first the private-purchase piece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted May 21, 2005 Author Share Posted May 21, 2005 And the issue badge. Note the common features shared by both types. The issue badge is actually maker marked to Juncker. The PP badge bears only the crescent moon and 800 silber marks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deruelle Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 Hi, Please have a look of my prussian pilot badge's case without badge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deruelle Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 A focus of the makerChristophe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deruelle Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 Hi, I would like to compare my pilot badge case with several others, so if someone has got another one it is possible to share it with us.RegardsChristophe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hunter Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 C'mon Rick keep going! This is like eating potato chips, nobody can eat just one... :food-smiley-004: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deruelle Posted May 22, 2005 Share Posted May 22, 2005 Hi everybody, One of the rarest pilot badge of the WW1 : the Bulgarian pilot badge. I have bought this beauty several years ago. Have a look. I have send a copy of this badge with the weight and size to Bulgarian Military Archives to give me an expertise of this one. Have alook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deruelle Posted May 22, 2005 Share Posted May 22, 2005 the reverse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted May 22, 2005 Share Posted May 22, 2005 I don't think the Official Bulgarians will be able to help, Christophe--there are so many variations of these badges, I don't think I have ever seen any two the same. Silver, base metal silvered, plain back, rayed back like yours...Bulgarian ones rather crudely made for that period, German made versions...but like varieties of the Turkish War Medal stars, there are so FEW of the different maker versions it is almost as if every recipient had his own badge made "special order!" The ONLY marks I have ever seen on their WW1 flying badges are the silver content (if silver)-- unlike the exceprionally beautiful and multi-piece versions from WW2, which ARE maker marked and so can be compared to each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted May 22, 2005 Author Share Posted May 22, 2005 Christophe, your Juncker Case looks blue.... they should be black?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deruelle Posted May 22, 2005 Share Posted May 22, 2005 The case is black, I don't understand why when I scan it the color change ???Christophe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted May 22, 2005 Author Share Posted May 22, 2005 Don't know either! But the photo, it looked blue on the edges. I think your case is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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