Royal Artillery badges

[IrishGunner]

Nothing special or exciting about these badges, but they are the newest additions. Funny I've not had these long before this...

[IrishGunner]

Two more

[IrishGunner]

In case, you are interested... (Waiting for Chris' comments... )

"THE CAP BADGE OF THE ROYAL REGIMENT OF ARTILLERY

The gun badge for all members of the Royal Regiment of Artillery was introduced in 1902 to be worn in the Service Dress Cap by all ranks of the Regiment (Regular Army).

The design of the badge derives from the Coat of Arms of the Royal Regiment of Artillery which was granted to the Regiment in July 1832 by His Majesty King William IV. The Royal arms and supporters with a cannon and the motto "Ubique quo fas et gloria du######". This was amended in 1833 to "Ubique" and "Quo fas et gloria du######", which translates to "Everywhere" and "Whither right and glory lead".

The gun used is said to be a Smooth Bored Muzzle Loading 9 pounder with a wooden trail, the trail was changed to steel in 1872.

The gun badge has both mottoes of the Regiment UBIQUE (EVERYWHERE) on the upper scroll and QUO FAS ET GLORIA DU###### (WITHER RIGHT AND GLORY LEAD) on the lower scroll. A modified design was worn by members of the Territorial Force (laurel spray replaced UBIQUE) and the Volunteers (the word VOLUNTEERS replaced UBIQUE).

It was made in brass for Soldiers, also bronze and gilt with a raised wheel for Officers.

The Bronze version is worn on the Service Dress Cap and on the flap of a brown leather pouch attached to a brown leather shoulder belt worn by Officers in Service Dress.

The Gilt version is worn on the Number 1 Dress Cap and on the flap of a black leather pouch attached to a shoulder belt worn by Officers in some forms of dress.

A plastic version was produced during World War 2 for wear by Other Ranks on the Cap General Service (a large khaki gabardine beret).

A brass version with a revolving raised wheel was produced privately for sale through the canteens, the Royal Artillery Association sells a similar version in anodised aluminium.

In 1954 the crown was changed to the St. Edward's Crown.

Marc J Sherriff © April 1997" (re-copied from Great War Forum)

[TacHel]

Sweet!

Any info on the crownless one? I'm not familiar with it at all...

[IrishGunner]

Frank, the crown-less one is a "gun badge". This is a sleeve badge worn above three chevrons as part of the rank insignia to designate a sergeant. It also can be worn by warrant officers on their sleeves to designate "Master Gunner".

[TacHel]

Frank, the crown-less one is a "gun badge". This is a sleeve badge worn above three chevrons as part of the rank insignia to designate a sergeant. It also can be worn by warrant officers on their sleeves to designate "Master Gunner".

Really? Is it still worn nowadays? Curious I've never before noticed that on a Canadian uniform. Although our uniforms now greatly vary from the British ones, our combat arms have retained most traditions from the british. Hmmm... Interesting, will definitely have to look closer next time. Thanks!

[IrishGunner]

Around WW2 it became cloth, but I don't think it is still used as part of the rank insignia for sergeants. I understand that it is, however, still worn by Master Gunners.

[Paul L Murphy]

Around WW2 it became cloth, but I don't think it is still used as part of the rank insignia for sergeants. I understand that it is, however, still worn by Master Gunners.

It is still worn in Number 2 dress by sergeants above the chevrons.

[IrishGunner]

It is still worn in Number 2 dress by sergeants above the chevrons.

Thanks for the assist Paul.

[Michael Johnson]

Really? Is it still worn nowadays? Curious I've never before noticed that on a Canadian uniform. Although our uniforms now greatly vary from the British ones, our combat arms have retained most traditions from the british.

Dunno about these days, but certainly they were back in the "battledress days".

[Laurence Strong]

Dunno about these days, but certainly they were back in the "battledress days".

Cannon for a WO qualified Gunner, Cannon inside wreath for Master Gunner. Both are still in effect in Canada

[IrishGunner]

I've been posting a lot of Imperial German artillery; thought I better pay homage to our host and revive this Royal Artillery thread...

Here's the Royal Artillery cap badge in wear... An unidentified Gunner. Note the typical bandolier worn by RA gunners.

[IrishGunner]

Another Gunner in parade dress... Named on the reverse: "Gunner C. Weaver; No. 38808; RGA; Joined 13 Feb 1913; photo taken 25 May 1913"

[IrishGunner]

Here's the Gun Badge discussed above with the chevrons of a Sergeant...

Anyone have a guess as the shoulder tab? All the gunners in the photo appear to have it on their uniforms.

(PS: Posted this in the Guns thread also reference the weapon.)

[Laurence Strong]

Any chance of a better close up?

Larry

[IrishGunner]

Larry, I'll try again, but that seems to be the best I could get at the time.

[Martin W]

Frank, the crown-less one is a "gun badge". This is a sleeve badge worn above three chevrons as part of the rank insignia to designate a sergeant. It also can be worn by warrant officers on their sleeves to designate "Master Gunner".

Here is a photo of my grandad taken circa WWI.

We can see the "gun badge" in wear above his chevrons.

BTW,nice badges Rick.

Regards,Martin.

[IrishGunner]

Larry, I tried to get a better shot of the shoulders of two of the gunners since they seem clearing than that of the sergeant. This is the best I can do...

[Martin W]

Could it be that the shoulder insignia reads RFA,(Royal Field Artillery) ??

Hard to tell.

Regards,Martin.

[IrishGunner]

Martin, "RFA" would make sense, but I'm used to only seeing the metal shoulder title on the epaulet. I'm hoping one of our British uniform experts can confirm...

[peter monahan]

RFA would make sense. there is a seat on the limber [for two gunners] and I think I can see spur straps on the sergeant, who would have been mounted separately, I think, while the rest of the crew rode the limber and gun team.

[Jerry B]

I have a few RA badges to add to this thread, which I assume is OK to do. I have two of the printed WWII period cloth arm badges used on a field made pennant.

[Laurence Strong]

Nice examples. Thanks for sharing them

:cheers;

Larry

[Martin W]

Lovely badges Jerry.

I really like the NCO sleeve badge with the back plate.

I've seen the pennants before,just great.

Cheers,Martin.

Edited April 23, 2014 by Martin W

[Jerry B]

Nice examples. Thanks for sharing them

:cheers;

Larry

Thanks Larry

Lovely badges Jerry.

I really like the NCO sleeve badge with the back plate.

I've seen the pennants before,just great.

Cheers,Martin.

Thanks Martin. Good to see another friend here.