Saxony New saxon officer ribbon bar and first research to id the owner

[Deruelle]

Hi,

Here is my new Saxon officer ribbon bar. The combo is very interesting.

When I saw it before buying it I thought it will be easy to id this bar. Hélas non !

Indeed, after reading the Reichswehr Ranglisten, I have found exactly one officers who wore the same Imperial combo :

SH3, SV3aX, SA3aXKr, EK2, HHO3X

I have found two others officers who wore one medal more, the SDA.

Oberst Schubert

Oberstleutnant Körner

Our man was still alive after 1934, he received the Hindenburg cross and he wore the two Whermacht long services. He probably decided not to wear the Saxon long service ribbon but only the two Whermacht ribbons.

I have a doubt. Indeed our man has received the Albert Order without cross before the war and it is probably the clue.

So I decide to look after all the officers who received the HHO3X during the war. The list contains 182 names. After some research I have a short list of 10 names and only two wore the SA3a before the war.

Oberstleutnant Wilhelm Frhr von Hammerstein-Loxten

Major Emil Schmidt.

I have nothing after 1932. I don’t know if they were reactived after 1935

So if someone has got information about those two officers, thanks for your help.

Christophe

[saschaw]

I cannot help, but just one thing: It was usual not to wear old German states active military long service awards with the Wehrmacht DAs, as these did indeed replace the old ones.

[Paul C]

Hammerstein-Loxten was born 1870 so I think you could cross him off the list.

[M Hunter]

Christophe,

I was looking through my photo archive- here is a group with similar combination of decorations.

Best wishes

Matt

[Deruelle]

Thanks Matt, have you got a name ?

A very nice group

Christophe

[Deruelle]

Hi,

I have a photo of Major Emil Schmidt so this is probably not the owner of the ribbon bar about his age (he is born in 1872). It will be hard to find the name of the owner of the bar.

Christophe

[M Hunter]

Thanks Matt, have you got a name ?

A very nice group

Christophe

Hi Christophe,

Unfortunately this one is not named.

Best wishes

Matt

[MJC]

Christophe,

Any other candidates for your bar? I am back at NARA tomorrow and can check candidates with later service careers.

[Deruelle]

Thanks for your help Mike . If you find a photo of Hammerstein-Loxten it will be great.

Christophe

[Deruelle]

Hello,

Today I have received new photo of Major Emil Schmidt

Christophe