panzercomander Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 Hi guys, After almost 5 years out of the collecting world i want to turn back, in the past i used to concetrate my collecting interest on medal bars and formed a very tiny nucleus of collection, then by studies i decide to quit the hobby. On those days i made a kind of "dream list" decorations to add someday to my collection and now that i have a kind of job that permits me to get back to collecting world im searching some basic information about this orders. Lets start with the "Dream List": 1.The Order of the Zähringer Lion ( lower grade - Kinght's cross 2nd Class) 2.Red Eagle Order (lower grade - 4th Class) 3. House Order of Hohenzollern ( lower grade - Silver Merit Cross?? ( please if wrong correct me) ) 4. Prussia Crown Order (lower grade - 4th class) 5. Iron cross from 1870 or 1813 As im starting im not pointing to the high grades of this awards (maybe in a future i will be able to spend more money on collecting and afford the higher grades) so i have some questions and kindly ask for your help me on this: Where i can find technical information about the fabbrication of this orders. How much can cost the lower grades of this orders ( i know that there are a lot of variations and factors that can condition the prices but i want to have an idea of a medium cost to see how much i can put apart to buy it). Also i kindly ask if possible that you people can reccomend me a trusful dealer or dealers to buy this kind of decorations(i was surfing the web searching on some dealers but i dont know his reputation so i prefer to hear from you some sugests). Thanks a lot by the help and I ask to forgive me if im asking so much. Cordial Greetings, Carlos
Dave Danner Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 I think the grade of the House Order of Hohenzollern you are looking for would be the Knight's Cross. With swords, this was the main Prussian award in World War I that was higher than the Iron Cross 1st Class but below the Pour le Merite. I do not know how prices are of late, but I think I have seen them in the 700-800 euro range recently?
Deruelle Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 Hi Carlos, Here is one link that may help you : http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/52564-reliable-dealer-websites/page__pid__479946#entry479946 Christophe
panzercomander Posted January 7, 2012 Author Posted January 7, 2012 Hi Dave thanks a lot by the corrections on the grade of hohenzollern house order, just the one that im serching for , and also thanks by the info about the prices. Hi Christophe, thanks a lot by the info if the thread on the dealers, im gonna start reading it!!! Thanks a lot by the info guys! Carlos
Komtur Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 (edited) Red Eagle Order 4th class: 200-300 Euro Prussian Crown Order 4th class: 150-250 Euro Here are three German dealer specialized for imperial awards, all very kind and trustful and btw collectors too: Sascha Wöschler Torsten Straube Uwe Bretzendorfer If you buy orders of your "Dream List" there, you can be sure, these will be originals! Regards, Komtur. Edited January 7, 2012 by Komtur 2
panzercomander Posted January 7, 2012 Author Posted January 7, 2012 Thanks a lot Komtur!!!! i will check the sites to see and compare prices and decide what to buy thanks a lot!!! Carlos
eurorders Posted November 27, 2017 Posted November 27, 2017 Remarking on the other part of your question, here are some good guide books, among others Title Author Year Publisher Orders and Decorations of Europe in Color Hieronymussen 1967 MacMillan British Orders and Decorations Risk 1973 Hayward Orders and Decorations Purves 1972 Hamlyn/Sun Books Ephemeral Decorations Gillingham 1935 Amer Numis Soc. Debrett’s Guide to Heraldry and Regalia Williamson 1992 Headline Orders and Medals of Bulgaria Patrov 2000 Voenno Izdatelstvo Book of Orders of Knighthood and Decorations of Honour of All Nations Burke 1858 N&M Press The History of the Order of Bath and Its Insignia Risk 1972 Spink British Orders, Decorations and Medals Hall 1973 Balfour Court Jewelers of the World Jacob 1978 Postgraduate International Catalogue of Military and Naval Campaign Medals and Gallantry Awards 1980 Sothebys Orders, Decorations, and Insignia, Military and Civil Wyllie 1921 Forgotten Books European Orders and Decorations to 1945 Duckers 2007 Shire British Orders and Decorations Duckers 2004 Shire Bulgaria Imperial Orders and Medals 1887-1945 Furlan 1996 Militaria House Parade Medals of the Third Reich Yanacek 2008 Schiffer Book of Orders and Decorations Mericka 1975 Hamlyn Orders and Decorations Mericka 1967 Hamlyn Orders and Decorations of All Nations Ancient and Modern Civil and Military Werlich Second Edition, 1973 & 1990 Quaker Press Spinks Catalogue of British and Associates Orders, Decorations and Medals Joslin 1983 Webb & Bower Imperial Austrian Medals and Decorations Von Falkenstein 1972 -o- private Militaria: A Study of German Helmets & Uniforms 1729-1918 Kube 1990 Schiffer Orders and Decorations of All Nations Werlich 1965 Quaker Press Military Medals & Decorations of the United States and Europe Ball & Peters 1994 Schiffer Medal Yearbook 2004 Mackay & Mussell 2004 Token Publishing Vernon’s Guide to Orders, Medals & Decoration with Valuations Vernon 2000 Self/private The Medal Collectors’ Companion Collecting and Identifying Orders, Medals and Decorations Vernon 1995 Self/private Royal Insignia: British and Foreign Orders of Chivalry from the Royal Collection Patterson 1997, 1998 The Royal Collection Medals Ribbons of Imperial Austria and Germany Neville 1974 Balfour Publications Militaria – Die Militar Dienstzeichen 1849-1989 Steiner 1993 self Deutsche Orden & Ehrenzeichen 1800 – 1945 Nimmergut 2017 Battenberg Bewertung Katalog Deutschland 1871-1945 Orden Und Ehrenzeichen Niemann 2009 Self/private History of the Early Orders of Knighthood & Chivalry Neville 1978 Albemarle 4 volume Borna Barac series called Reference Catalogue Orders, Medals and Decorations of the World instituted until 1945. Borna Barac 2009 through 2013 OBOL Ribbons and Medals Dorling 1974 Philip British and Foreign Orders, War Medals and Decorations Payne 1981 Hayward
eurorders Posted August 15, 2018 Posted August 15, 2018 Here is a Black Eagle shabrack star of the officer’s ornamental saddle caparisons, Royal Prussian Guard regiments from about 1870 until shortly after 1900. 130 MM/5 inches top to bottom I acquired this year. and a Embroidered imperial regimental banner with tassels for the veterans of the foot Artillery Regiment 14 of the Offenburg unit in Baden Germany
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