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    A non-combatant's bar... EK2 non-cbt ribbon, HK without swords, Austro-Hungarian Pro deo Patria non-cbt medal ribbon..

    Except shouldn't the Wuerttemburg Wilhelmskreuz be "ohne Schwerter"?

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    Not quite. Anyone else?

    Anyhoo, the Württemberg crosses w/o swords do not bear the "krigsverdienst" inscription, indicating that they might have been post-war "public welfare" awards. This bar is definitely a "kreigie," albeit to a non-comb.

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    So.... the answer is: Wilhemskreuz is the only non-combatant award with swords. Service in the homeland vice at the front?

    Wilhelmskreuz mit Schwertern – für Verdienste im Krieg in der Heimat

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    Chris is correct. Kudos to you!

    The Hungarian dingus has no swords. It's the only one I've ever seen. it was a sort of "why bother" thing, but this recipient must have been proud of the splinter he picked out of some Austro-Hungarian nun's finger... especially to go to the trouble of having it mounted.

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    Chris is correct. Kudos to you!

    The Hungarian dingus has no swords. It's the only one I've ever seen. it was a sort of "why bother" thing, but this recipient must have been proud of the splinter he picked out of some Austro-Hungarian nun's finger... especially to go to the trouble of having it mounted.

    So, out of curiosity then... Have you seen the medal w/swords mounted on a non-combatant ribbon? Or would that simply be "fantasy"?

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    I dont think you even had a pick a splinter, I think like the Bulgarian one you just had to send an application and a bit of money....

    :cheeky:

    Let's keep it going. What can one say about this curiosity?

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    Its the first hungarian without swords i have seen... I may have seen them, but it is the first time I have noted one....

    It's actually quite rare to find mounted on a bar. I've got one as shown here and it's the only one I had ever seen until the above photo of one. It's obvious why it's a non-combatant bar.

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    I think the one I have a problem understanding is the Bavarian one, as I dont know the statutes.

    It is possible to get a swordless HK with black ribboned cross... for instance a non combattant official in occupied Belgium....

    But how does the bavarian fit??

    Another possibility of course would be war service on the homefront (Within the borders)... but I still dont know how the Bavarian fits in there... It is of course possible to get the BMVK as a soldier, be invalided and then get "civilian" medals for Kriegshilfe.... but then if he served at the front for the BMVK, then howcome he has no swords on the HK?

    I am at a loss... I can see how all would fit together, OTHER than the Bavarian....

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    One will never know. Closest guess I can make is a hospital administrator, or railroad official, or a munitions manufacturer liaison. There does exist a Johanniter's Cross medal for hospital administrators serving at the front, but the war ended before any could be awarded. Definitey a curious bar. If he was a soldier, then where are the long service medals?

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    It's actually quite rare to find mounted on a bar. I've got one as shown here and it's the only one I had ever seen until the above photo of one. It's obvious why it's a non-combatant bar.

    Great one. I love the way the guy added the HK at the end. Vanity meets with pride.

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