Soviet No Order... Just A Rust Stained Hole & A Shadow

[RichieC]

Gentlemen,

I proudly own this pullover that once belonged to a Sgt of an Anti-Tank Demolition Artillery unit.

There seems to be a place above the LH pocket where some type of order has vacated the premises.

A Red Banner perhaps?

Your opinions would be greatly appreciated as I aspire to get this one completed and up on a display form.

I tried my best for a good image with the limited resources I have to work with here. There are no marks on the inside other than the presence of that rusty hole again. In any case, kindly let me know if more images are needed.

Thanks in advance...

Richie C

[RichieC]

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[Riley1965]

You have a great piece there!!! It does look like an ORB was there.

Doc

[Stogieman]

I'd have to agree, that sure looks like an ORB Shadow....

[NavyFCO]

Just remember though that many uniforms ended up in museums of all sizes in the former USSR, and many times awards were added at random - and over the years leaving marks like these.

What is odd though is that I don't think silver rusts. Perhaps it was a badge with a steel screwpost?

Dave

[Stogieman]

I did wonder about that, but have never asked the question before this. The screw-post is silver as well as the badge?

[RichieC]

Of what metal composition are the retaining nuts constructed of?

[NavyFCO]

Of what metal composition are the retaining nuts constructed of?

On a proper early WW2 badge (such as a sb ORB) everything (badge, screwpost and screw nut) should be silver.

Dave

[Gerd Becker]

Of what metal composition are the retaining nuts constructed of?

Normally everything, what touches the uniform, is made of non-corrosing metals like silver or brass, and the early screwdisks are from silver.

Can someone tell me, what the later screwdisks are made of? Some are very light and others are much heavier.

I would agree on the Red Banner, btw.

best,

Gerd

EDIT: Dave was fasterobviously...

Edited February 13, 2006 by Gerd Becker

[RichieC]

Thanks for all the input. Perhaps the brown stain is not rust? Possibly it may be dirt that accumulated in the hole over the years? The pullover was fairly soiled when I first aquired it.

I personally will not go crazy over this, but if one were to really get "techie" about it, I suppose it could be tested for iron-oxide. Rust is iron-oxide, correct? There must be a way to test for it...

I'll see if I can dig up my old childhood Gilbert Chemistry Set... I may have to call my Mom to ask her where she put it...

Edited February 13, 2006 by RichieC