EK 1914 Fake EK1, a humbling experiance....

[Chris Boonzaier]

dont really collect crosses... but bought this a couple of years ago. Of course it was original! The quality was there....

Of course, I did not wonder about it being a flatback - screwback, which i have never really seen before for WW1...

Rubbing some dirt off the back showed the backplate was made of a copper like material....

So... the front rim and core must have come from an original EK2, everything on the back fake.....

[dond]

The core looks like a KO core.

[Motorhead]

Yes-a so called "Frankenstein" !

Micha

[saschaw]

Indeed typical Frankenstein. But flat screw back crosses do exist, after all. Check this one out. It's one piece made and from steel. Totally not what one would expect!

[Eric Stahlhut]

another point to add: crosses with silvered brass backplates and real silver frames did indeed exist. i have a prinzen example that shares this characteristic, and i'm pretty sure i have at least one full-sized specimen as well.

as a result, the two points used to determine this cross's originality can't absolutely preclude the authenticity of the cross, in my opinion. a lot of weird things happened in the interim years when construction criteria went out the window. all sorts of materials were used during the post-war recession.

p.s. the cross that chris had now resides somewhere within the curio/debatable/really, really, really, good fakes section of my humble collection.

Edited March 10, 2013 by Eric Stahlhut

[Chris Boonzaier]

Sorry Eric, I realised I did not mail all the items I had in the auction, the Gebirgsjäger paper I forgot!!

[Eric Stahlhut]

lol

Sorry Eric, I realised I did not mail all the items I had in the auction, the Gebirgsjäger paper I forgot!!

lol!

[Chris Boonzaier]

I should have kept a screen shot of that ;-)