Chris Boonzaier Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Hi, Take a look at the following pic..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted June 12, 2013 Author Share Posted June 12, 2013 Then the following tunic.... http://www.kaiserscross.com/286801/286822.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted June 12, 2013 Author Share Posted June 12, 2013 The wearer of the tunic had been a 1 Year volunteer in 1912-13, a resserve NCo at mobilisation, and was comissioned at the end of 1914. He was killed in early 1915. I had always assumed, with this high collar and no tresses, that it was a tunic he had had altered as an officer... But seeing the photo above, and the fact it was back with his parents and his Blue one year volunteer tunics... it seems to be very possible that it could have been his prewar tunic from the time he was a one year volunteer? I suppose high colors were not official, but tolerated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 The MGSS sleeve insignia was only created mid-war, right? That must be his ? baby brother circa 1916--hasn't even made Fahnenjunker-Gefreiter yet. That is one EXTRRRRRRRRRRRREME hat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted June 12, 2013 Author Share Posted June 12, 2013 Hi, i misspoke... I dont mean that the guy in the pic was the owner of the jacket, i menat that the photo shows one year volunteers with a high collar, i was wondering if that was comman practice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 (edited) Chris Looks well educated probably a private purchase tunic not his field coat? He must have rushed through mg school where did he become a casualty? edit was going to say! Eric Edited June 12, 2013 by Hoss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Ah. Probably--have seen that--at least later in the war--even for "dude" privates. Fairly easy to "improve" a collar rather than a whole tunic, tailor-wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn J Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 The MGSS badge was introduced in February 1916 for the Saxon Army. What is slightly unusual is the fact that he is still wearing the "einjähriger" cord as the practice of enlisting one year volunteers ceased in October 1914. War volunteers were not entitled to the one year cord either. Regards Glenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 (edited) Here's a "stiff necked" Gefreiter, circa late 1918 or 1919 (lightly pencilled message was meticulously scrubbed clean by a previous owner, sigh). Though highly decorated by Oldenburg, his rank buttons on officer height collar are Prussian. Straps appear to have never had anything--as if Landsturm plain solid color. Yet is too young for that, and wearing a regular's state cockade. Side note on this one: look how WORN the finishs are on his OK1 and Wound Bade--after mere months of wear!! Edited June 12, 2013 by Rick Research Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adler 1 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Seems I have such a "stiff necked" Gefreiter tunic from Feld-Artillerie-Regt. Nr.62 Oldenburg, maybe it was just a fashion thing?... Adler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted June 20, 2013 Author Share Posted June 20, 2013 That is a nice tnic indeed!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Karel, Is your artillery tunic marked inside? FAR.62. had a cypher on their shoulder boards and (in that they are from the X.A.K.) they should have the corps color white piping. There was a Res.FAR.62, so perhaps that's what your tunic is. Chip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 It's also possible that this shoulder strap is a private purchase hybrid. I have seen similar foot artillery straps that have the 1915 crossed shells on a field gray strap with yellow piping. They are always private purchase pieces. This would make the red piping on your tunic make sense. But I still don't think it can be the line regiment without the crown and cypher. Chip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccj Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Nice tunic, I really like the collar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adler 1 Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Chip, your knowledge goes far beyond any frontier! It's indeed a private purchase tunic and has no marks at all... Adler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Adler1, Here is an example of what I was talking about. M07 foot artillery straps had white piping. M15 foot artillery straps were all yellow. So, this is some tailor's idea at what to do with the straps on a tunic that has buttons down the front, but is made after the new regulations of 1915. In my estimation, these were made specifically for walking-out-dress and that is why they survived the war. I've seen these hybrids in foot artillery, field artillery, pioneers and some cavalry unit's straps. Chip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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